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Offline R 105

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Re: Henschel 129
« Reply #45 on: January 26, 2013, 08:27:39 AM »
The Hs 129 had two French 700hp Gnome-Rhone 14M motors because they were available. The plane was underpowered but still had a good gun and enjoyed success as a tank killer. I am all for new planes like the Hs 129 or new armor like the StuG III or the Hetzer JagdPanzer.   

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Re: Henschel 129
« Reply #46 on: January 26, 2013, 12:33:06 PM »
German wikipedia has Data from the military archive in Freiburg regarding Ju 88P
P-1: 20+18 rebuilt from A-4
P-4: 25 rebuilt from A-4

By march 1944 10 P-4 were delivered, P-1 series was obviously completed earlier
http://www.luftwaffe.no/SIG/RLM/RLMMar44.html

Not Obviously! Show me any where the -1 were used in combat besides being tested at Poltava . What are there werk numbers?

Your missing the -2 and -3 which came out of those. I have explained it ^above. There were a total of 32-33 Ju88P's -1 thru-4 completed period. :aok

Your luft list fails to show any ju-88p-1 -2 -3 at all.

However it does show 674 Hs-129b2 :aok

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Re: Henschel 129
« Reply #47 on: January 30, 2013, 05:42:41 PM »
Well Bibalonian

1st of all they were ordered not completed...... and there were 90 -4's ordered and 10 made.

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BTW you should try a few books instead of the wiki


All Ju88Ps were converted from stock A-4s.  Danke!!!!   :D   I love inadvertent help/foot-in-mouthing.  (and about that wiki information, see the Ju88 thread in teh wishlist forum that "you made for me".)



Does the Hs-129 thread's persisting residence in the General Forum instead of the Wishlist anything like how all of Lance Armstrong's books now all reside in Fiction rather instead of Non-Fiction?   :devil  :noid

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Re: Henschel 129
« Reply #48 on: January 31, 2013, 03:21:29 PM »
Waaaiiitttt for It!!

Next release:

He111
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Hs129 would be harder for the T34 commander mode one shot skeet shooters to hit. Il2 and Ju87G2 guns become effective at the same range that a commander mode one shot kill becomes 75% or better probability. Especially the more passes you have to make to account for Internet Lag. So you are flying yourself right down their barrel.

The guns approach and firing distance is historicly accurat. Commander mode one shot skeet shooting is Star Wars gey as heck for xBox kiddies. This game is in general so well balanced for accuracy versus play, then this MechWar garbage. Is Aces High about to be ported to xBox or something and needs an easy mode tool for the grade schoolers to keep their parents happy about $14.95 a month?
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Re: Henschel 129
« Reply #49 on: January 31, 2013, 03:26:12 PM »
Waaaiiitttt for It!!

Next release:

He111
Yak3

Hs129 would be harder for the T34 commander mode one shot skeet shooters to hit. Il2 and Ju87G2 guns become effective at the same range that a commander mode one shot kill becomes 75% or better probability. Especially the more passes you have to make to account for Internet Lag. So you are flying yourself right down their barrel.

The guns approach and firing distance is historicly accurat. Commander mode one shot skeet shooting is Star Wars gey as heck for xBox kiddies. This game is in general so well balanced for accuracy versus play, then this MechWar garbage. Is Aces High about to be ported to xBox or something and needs an easy mode tool for the grade schoolers to keep their parents happy about $14.95 a month?

If you don't want to get shot down by a tank, don't fly straight into its main gun.  Despite what you and FlyinFool think, it has been shown through posting of official accounts that tanks did fire at low level attacking planes with their main gun and at least in one case, was successful in bringing down a plane.

Please try and keep your response to less than 500 words, I tend to fall asleep reading your long verbose posts.

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Re: Henschel 129
« Reply #50 on: January 31, 2013, 05:20:17 PM »
Thats OK Ack Ack, recent MRI testing is finding college students brains go on snooze after a single paragraph unless the topic is something that really turns on their intrest in puerile ways. The testing is a result of ongoing issues with the inablilty for many to communicate in more than a paragraph or make any two paragraphs in the same paper effectively relate to each other. 

I always thought you were a bit older than that.
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Re: Henschel 129
« Reply #51 on: January 31, 2013, 06:46:19 PM »
He probably is; you're just boring, and a tad pedantic, in this particular case without any real knowledge of the subject it would seem.
You started this thread and it was obviously about your want and desire in spite of your use of 'we' and Google.

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Re: Henschel 129
« Reply #52 on: January 31, 2013, 08:19:42 PM »
If you don't want to get shot down by a tank, don't fly straight into its main gun.  Despite what you and FlyinFool think, it has been shown through posting of official accounts that tanks did fire at low level attacking planes with their main gun and at least in one case, was successful in bringing down a plane.

Please try and keep your response to less than 500 words, I tend to fall asleep reading your long verbose posts.

ack-ack

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1  They can shoot at me all day long, I don't care... but YOU can only provide 1 instance ONE in all off ww2  and you say its good?  :rofl

You sound like the fool to me.  :aok

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Re: Henschel 129
« Reply #53 on: January 31, 2013, 10:14:37 PM »
How can you remove it?  If the projectile intersects the aircraft it is a hit, unless you want to do a gamey solution such as making aircraft immune to tank shells.
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Re: Henschel 129
« Reply #54 on: January 31, 2013, 10:19:59 PM »
How can you remove it?  If the projectile intersects the aircraft it is a hit, unless you want to do a gamey solution such as making aircraft immune to tank shells.

Remove the ability to fire in commander mode.

  the game is concentrated on combat, not on shaking the screen.

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Re: Henschel 129
« Reply #55 on: January 31, 2013, 10:39:21 PM »
Remove the ability to fire in commander mode.
35 tank to air kills this tour may qualify me to speak on this, though I doubt all were main gun shots, (some pintle gun, some proxies) I dare say a majority of them were main gun shots.......... all made from the gunner's position, as they flew right into my barrel, with an occasional lucky lead shot.   :aok  :ahand

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Re: Henschel 129
« Reply #56 on: January 31, 2013, 10:49:36 PM »
I don't have a problem with this kind of gameplay either (I don't bother with GVs for the most part, that includes bombing them). Just a reply to Karnak's question. Unrealistic? Yea. But so is a whole lot of other stuff in AH. Remember, it's not a flight sim, it's a game with realistic modeling. There is a difference.

  the game is concentrated on combat, not on shaking the screen.

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Re: Henschel 129
« Reply #57 on: February 01, 2013, 08:08:02 AM »
Remove the ability to fire in commander mode.

^^^this^^^
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Re: Henschel 129
« Reply #58 on: February 01, 2013, 08:15:46 AM »
35 tank to air kills this tour may qualify me to speak on this,

Ok, it qualifies you to speak on it but I didn't see you making a single argument/point regarding the issue? :headscratch: Was your only reason for posting that you've scored 35 kills in a tank this tour?
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Re: Henschel 129
« Reply #59 on: February 01, 2013, 08:50:28 AM »
- Centerline main weapon (MK103) with 100 rounds.

I must correct myself here...

In the operating instructions of the MK103 for the Hs129 it says the following:

Einlegen des Vollgurtes mit 80 Schuß nach Beladeschema am Vollgurtkasten.

My German is very very poor but as I understand it, it basically says: "Place ammunition belt with 80 rounds into the ammunition container as detailed in the diagram."

So in my understanding, 80 rounds instead of 100. The 100 rounds probably came from reading MK103-document regarding Me410. It'd be nice if someone with better handle on German would comment if I got the translation anywhere near correct.
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