looking at a new computer

[guncrasher]

Well you guys completly ran this subject to the ground. Can some one here maby point me in the right direction, for a decent computer. Remember i dont know alot about computers, so building one or adding parts is out of the picture

here are some links.

http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/

http://www.tdcomputersystems.com/

or you can go to bestbuy and get what they have.

suggestions arent really gonna work for you as you will buy whatever other companies have.  the only way you can control what goes into your system is if you build it yourself.

midway

[MrRiplEy[H]]

So are you as you pointed out that all you use win8 is to press a button and play a game.  you are just fooling yourself to think otherwise.

midway

Enough with the trolling already. I said I use 2 other OSes for purposes they suit better than windows for. I'm far from afraid of change. The things that remain with windows are the things that scare me - malware and viruses. Even with those you're much safer with Windows8 instead of 7 not to even mention XP.

[Bizman]

Well you guys completly ran this subject to the ground. Can some one here maby point me in the right direction, for a decent computer. Remember i dont know alot about computers, so building one or adding parts is out of the picture

Since you've told you're on a budget, here's a hint I've used more than a couple of times: Find a setup you might like. Look at Wikipedia for the CPU and GPU, keywords for Googling are something like "Intel/AMD processors wiki" and "GeForce/Radeon comparison". Note whether they are in the lower or upper end of their series. For AH you'd be looking for something like my rig or newer, in any case something with a top 3 processor and video card of their era. After you've got a rough idea about what you're looking for, it's time to do some ebay/local builder shopping. BTW the local builder could be a very good choice to make friends with, they might have what you need either as whole or in pieces, being able to build and test a rig for you, even give some warranty for your safety.

[Krusty]

You're just afraid of change that's all.

Wow... again, you absolutely insult me to my face by dismissing anything EVERYONE (myself included) has to say because you don't agree...

You, sir, are an insulting troll. Further, you are absolutely wrong. I welcome change for the better.

[MrRiplEy[H]]

Wow... again, you absolutely insult me to my face by dismissing anything EVERYONE (myself included) has to say because you don't agree...

You, sir, are an insulting troll. Further, you are absolutely wrong. I welcome change for the better.

Keep fighting windmills if you want. Microsoft draws the guidelines and you either go with them or stop using their products. In a couple of years you'll find how foolish your posts were when everyone is used to the new UI.

Similar naysayers were abundant when Windows XP came out. The XP interface sucked for a first two years. Then it became the standard and now it's the 'gold premium' nobody wanted to leave behind. See how it goes? It's called progress.

Or maybe MS will revert to old style, who knows. Somehow I doubt that will happen. In the meanwhile you will drag behind technological advancement by sticking with Windows XP or 7 decade after others stopped using them

I for example am required to learn the new UI and its quirks just for professional reasons alone. You'd look pretty foolish at a customer if you didn't know how to use the latest OS version So the only sensible way is to embrace the change no matter how foolish it feels. Once you do that you'll find out that Win8 is actually a pretty nicely working OS under the metro mess.

[rpm]

Late to the thread, but I didn't want to star a new one... My cpu is dying. My pc is 5 years old. It's time to replace.
Primary use: AH
Secondary use: Quickbooks, Netflix, Hulu

I don't have the know-how to build one from scratch anymore. You got a TRS-80 or AST Bravo, I'm your tech.

I need some advice from people that know what they are doing. What's the best bang for the buck, off the shelf pc to suit my needs? I really don't know what to look for in a pc that will optimize AH performance. I've got a budget of $1000 and all I need is the pc. I need a rig that will smoke AH and cruise thru HD video a few years before it's obsolete.

Thanks in advance for your advice. <S>

[Bizman]

An Intel Z77 motherboard, CPU Intel i7-3770k, GPU AMD Radeon HD7950, PSU Seasonic 750W, 8Gb of RAM, HDD of your choice, 500 GB and up, case Antec 300. Find a local reputable builder shop, preferably one run by gamers, they'd be happy to build that for you. It may cost some bucks more than from e-shops, but you'd get better service and good advice plus you'd keep the money in your hometown.

[ACE]

Apple sucks!

[MrRiplEy[H]]

Apple sucks!

If you don't have money for it, for sure! 

[ACE]

If you don't have money for it, for sure! 

Aw man thats signature material for someone right there

[dhaus]

I just built mine - 3570k Intel Cpu, asrock extreme4 motherboard, haf912 case, coolermaster hyper12+ cooler, xfx radeon 7870 vidcard, 8gb corsair vengeance memory (1666), 1tb hardrive, and seasonic 620w power supply, with a Dvd burner.  Under 1000 including win7.  Never built a computer before and had no idea what most of those numbers meant in October.  It works.      Newegg has some good videos on how to put stuff together.  Pcpartpicker.com is helpful with pricing and compatibility check.  The net has a ton of diy sites that have step by step directions - youtube has videos, review sites for components are out there.  You really can build one.  The site with prebuilt computers that came closest in price was Cyberpower.  And that was $200 over what I paid and they used a generic power supply and unnamed video card (although it was a 7870 that I priced).  I have no idea how good they are on the finished product and support.  Oh,  I did build model airplanes as a kid.  Several of those were more complicated than putting the computer together.

[Gman]

RPM I would go with what Dhaus just posted, or something very close.  The 3570k cpu if you overclock it is one of the best bang for the bucks out there, and you can find it bundled with a decent MB from a lot of places in the low 300 range.  7870 is a good card for the money, or if you want to spend just a little more you can jump up to the 7950 as well.  If you stick with a spinner hard drive and 8 or 16 gigs of decent ram, you can come in around 1000 without being too picky.  Just get a half way decent power supply for everything, and you're laughing.

I just put together a 3570 system for 1200 for a friend and it is nearly as good as my 2200$ 3820 system with a 540$ 680 4 gig video card, and a 300$ motherboard etc etc.  Go with the 3570, just make sure you get the "k" 3570k.

[rpm]

Sad thing is I just bought a new 750w power supply for my old computer a month ago but it's not modular. I suspect all the new ones would need modular. One reason I'm leaning to a shelf model is support. Here's one that looks good. the power supply is knida small, but maybe I can swap it for the one I have.Thoughts?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883229386

[Bizman]

Modularity is not a big thing. The main thing is, does your current PSU have the connectors for your video card. Actually, the modular ones I've seen seem to have permanently attached a bunch of cables you don't need and the detachable ones are impractically designed.
 
I suppose a new 750w PSU is designed for gaming, with enough power for a high end GPU or two and with corresponding connectors.

The rig you linked to has a mid-class video card. What's worse, this Wikipedia article leads to think it's built with DDR3 type of memory instead of GDDR5. As you also said, the power supply seems a little weak and they don't tell its manufacturer. Conclusion: Don't buy that!

Go to your local builder shop with your current psu and ask what they could build around it. Ask them dumb questions, like "why did they choose that brand of a component instead of a cheaper one with same specs". As for support, I'd rather rely on someone I can visit with a baseball bat than a faceless Internet market with constantly changing support personnel whom you can't personally visit.

[guncrasher]

Sad thing is I just bought a new 750w power supply for my old computer a month ago but it's not modular. I suspect all the new ones would need modular. One reason I'm leaning to a shelf model is support. Here's one that looks good. the power supply is knida small, but maybe I can swap it for the one I have.Thoughts?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883229386

that computer is gonna need a couple of upgrades if you want to use it for aces high.  the video card is kindda on the low side.  why dont you  go to cyberpower directly and see if perhaps you can upgrade a bit.

http://www.cyberpowerpc.com

midway