FSO is about who you know not what you know

[AKP]

I consider G3-MF, 325th, Nightmares, 49th, 35th, etc. all Allied squads.

I would have to disagree with you on that in regards to G3-MF Perd...  When we were VF-15... yes, we were an Allied squad.  But since the change, we fly whatever, whenever, where ever.  We look at the setup each month, and request what we think would be more fun.  If we get it... great.  If not, that's fine too.  Just about the only time we really "prefer" Allied is in a PTO setup, but thats because we are still Hellcat dweebos at heart  But we have flown IJN a few times as well.  

To me... and I speak for all of G3 on this one... its about the mission, and flying together.  We get handed a leaky bag once in a while, and do our best to make the most of it. 

 

 

[Biggamer]

I would have to disagree with you on that in regards to G3-MF Perd...  When we were VF-15... yes, we were an Allied squad.  But since the change, we fly whatever, whenever, where ever.  We look at the setup each month, and request what we think would be more fun.  If we get it... great.  If not, that's fine too.  Just about the only time we really "prefer" Allied is in a PTO setup, but thats because we are still Hellcat dweebos at heart  But we have flown IJN a few times as well.  

To me... and I speak for all of G3 on this one... its about the mission, and flying together.  We get handed a leaky bag once in a while, and do our best to make the most of it. 

 

 

 

[Shifty]

Proving the point that large squads do indeed get pref. treatment in consideration of what they want, etc. Because they don't wana do it, really! I get they want to be together/cohesion/effectiveness/etc. But anathema to the concept ,gota call foul on that. You still score totals as your group, you still have missions, you still fly with some of your squadies, and you still fly with unknowns and you only have to do this split sometimes not all the time. Solves the issue of small squads not getting the hot ships/missions because of big squads and lets the big squads learn/teach as well. Does nothing for allied/axis rotations of course.

I'm just stirring the pot to keep the ideas flowing. There are 9 pages so far and I would think whether real or percieved the issues are best served when talked out. By the way I personally have little issue with any of this I just think discussion is benificial. I fly in a small squad and we do as instructed. 

So you don't stand by the first statement? You're just throwing stuff out there to stir the pot?
Yes 9 pages. Most of it paranoid accusations or just plain crap to stir the pot as with your post.

[VuduVee]

Where are you guys getting the smaller squads get treated with less respect than larger ones? In fact there are 28 small squads squadrons operating in the FSO. So far it is two of these squadrons complaining. One failed to update its ride request so getting bombers is more your own fault than it was the CiCs. The other squad is upset because it had to fly Axis and wants to implement a plan where they would end up flying Axis more. This would also effect the other 26 small squads that are not complaining and all the other medium and large squads as well. Its like tearing the bottom out of a sinking ship so the water will drain. Except for a couple of years in a large squad every FSO squad I've been in has been less than 10.  We may not have always got the exact plane we wanted but we got good planes. You would have less to complain about if you took the time to update your side and ride request and communicate with the other squadrons for whatever side you're flying with. Your squadron's success is your responsibility not the responsibility of everybody else.

actually, my squad isnt complaining, i am. theyve said nothing about it. i feel like i said my piece, and theres nothing i can do about it and nothing left to say. it is what it is. even though, i think i can see how us being on Axis more could partly solve my issues. because there seems to be less Axis, we could actually be used in more of a primary or at least important role there. and not just fodder or filler.
and as far as some folks disappointed or outright pissed at me. listen im not complaining just to be complaining, i felt like i had a valid point or i wouldnt say anything. there isnt one person in this thread who wouldnt express concerns if they felt the need. and i have a clearer view of FSO after this thread, so its not a pointless thread, like some folks have discounted it and my opinion as. and to ridicule me about it or send me veiled threats or "suggestions" via pvt message doesnt solve anything.

[Chanter]

I agree with (a portion of) the Subject.

This game is absolutely about who you know.  For example, I've known Warloc since 1998 when we were in Warbirds with 416 Sqn RCAF.  We both came here (as well as others from 416) in 2002.  I consider these guys my friends, even though we're geographically separated by thousands of miles.  Warloc and I even got a chance to go for a steak and some beers about 6 years ago when I was on a domestic deployment to his neck of the woods.  In this context, who you know is one of the most important things that separates this game from a stand alone boxed sim. 

As to how knowing the right people equates to better treatment in FSO...pooey.  If that were the case, our Sqn wouldn't have been saddled with IL2s last week, considering our CO is the CM team lead for FSO. 

[blazer65]

Well the 94th had to fly those icky G6's last week.....I'm still trying to scrub that smell of Krautwurst and Schwarzbier off me........nasty...

 

[pops57]

So you don't stand by the first statement? You're just throwing stuff out there to stir the pot?
Yes 9 pages. Most of it paranoid accusations or just plain crap to stir the pot as with your post.

Your take on it, not everyones obviously and an interesting response to be sure. A re-read might be in order as some interesting thoughts and ideas for change/percieved improvement have be put forward for discussion.  "Paraniod and Crap" speaks volumes! My best to you and good day sir.

[Shifty]

Your take on it, not everyones obviously and an interesting response to be sure. A re-read might be in order as some interesting thoughts and ideas for change/percieved improvement have be put forward for discussion.  "Paraniod and Crap" speaks volumes! My best to you and good day sir.

 You're just stiring the pot, you said so yourself.

Proving the point that large squads do indeed get pref. treatment in consideration of what they want, etc.

No squad large or small is expected to split up unless they as a squad want to.  The CM team doesn't treat large squads any different than we treat small squads.
So no point is proven, you're just jumping to conclusions. No re-read needed.

[FBDragon]

There is nothing in that post about your kills devil Oh i get it ya ate the sausage with your scrambled eggs

ok surfinn, whats with all the Waffle House references, you work there!!

[Poppy]

I'm just stirring the pot to keep the ideas flowing. There are 9 pages so far and I would think whether real or percieved the issues are best served when talked out. By the way I personally have little issue with any of this I just think discussion is benificial. I fly in a small squad and we do as instructed.  

 

[Poppy]

this is an odd thread really - since there is an accusation with no substantial proof to back any claim, a fundamental lack in finding a solution to the perceive problem, and finally a steadfast refusal to see reason in any of the answers given.


“To the man who is afraid everything rustles.”  Sophocles

An equal rotation is one issue singled out that can be handled. The other issues are a not as easy to zero in on and are over shadowing this. This could IMO assist with their solutions also by simply having a rotation that's known, adhered to and enforced for all if it's to be fair.
 IE, 1.) 1st month the squads are picked and everyone has a side. 2.) 2nd month this process is repeated, those squads last month that had already rotated from their side aren't to be used again(unless their requests agree with those assigning the sides) until all of the squads have rotated. As is we're all pot luck every month except for the dedicated Axis squad. We're all dedicated FSO squads and I only reference fairness when I push for this rotation to be a rule.  Only thing I see remotely negative is a bit of research each month to make sure it's done 

[STXAce8]

We know some people, and our orders for frame 2 show for it. 

[perdue3]

We know some people, and our orders for frame 2 show for it. 

No kidding. Good job surfinn, you won over the Axis CiC. Frame 2 gives the Allies a big handicap. Something tells me Allies will still FAIL. 

Not that Im complaining.