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[Wmaker]

We can send the designs to Wmaker.  He and his brethren will redesign it like the F-18 Super Brewster

 

You truly aren't the sharpest tool in the shed...

What I find funny is the fact that you seem to have a lot of opinions on how certain planes should be without having any idea or technical knowledge on how they were in real life. 

I find it rather amusing.

[pervert]

I don't doubt that the Ki-84 required stick force to keep the nose down in a dive.  What I am skeptical of is that it shed control surfaces at about 480 to 500mph.

The ki84 is much more likely to be overmodelled than under.

[Karnak]

The ki84 is much more likely to be overmodelled than under.

Compared to a real one with all of the quality control issues, sure, but we're supposed to get manufacturing defect free aircraft.  In other words, the Ki-84 should only shed its control surfaces at that speed if one built to spec would shed its control surfaces at that speed.

After all, you don't have Ponies popping wings off or Tiffies suffering tail separation do you?

[pervert]

It takes an incredible amount of punishment, in fact I would say it is the most durable fighter in game. So is a ki really more durable than a jug??

[Changeup]

It takes an incredible amount of punishment, in fact I would say it is the most durable fighter in game. So is a ki really more durable than a jug??

The KI does seem durable but I have never seen one behave in survival mode longer than a JUG.  Hell, the Brewster lasts almost as long as the JUG if we're using the JUG as the most damage-durable example.

[Karnak]

The KI does seem durable but I have never seen one behave in survival mode longer than a JUG.  Hell, the Brewster lasts almost as long as the JUG if we're using the JUG as the most damage-durable example.

Hellcat and Wildcat are the two fighters that stand out to me for durability.  Bf109s do also seem pretty tough.  The Ki-84 only really seems tough compared to other Japanese fighters and Spitfires.  It is pretty much right in line with things like the P-51, which isn't that surprising for the Japanese fighter built to the highest strength requirements of any Japanese fighter.

[pervert]

I am using the jug more as something that was famed for durabilty in real life. I would agree with the f4f as well but I am going from experience of what I am shooting down 84s seem to take a lot more before a wing pops off than anything else. If I get the time I think I will test it.

[Karnak]

Going by weight there doesn't really seem to be a reason the Ki-84 should be less durable than the F4F.  As far as the P-47 goes, I think it is simply so large that it catches a lot of rounds that would miss a smaller fighter like the Ki-84, and that hides its durability.  I certainly feel that about the Mossie, which absorbs AA fire and snap shots like a champ, but crumples when somebody has a bead on it.  I think the Bf109 seems tough to me because its size causes a lot of rounds to miss by inches or a few feet that would have hit a larger target like the P-47.

[Changeup]

You truly aren't the sharpest tool in the shed...

What I find funny is the fact that you seem to have a lot of opinions on how certain planes should be without having any idea or technical knowledge on how they were in real life. 

I find it rather amusing.

I find it fun to see how possessive you are with this turd of a plane.  One doesn't need to know a lot about aeronautical engineering to know in game, the Brewster performs classically better than the outcast aircraft it truly was.  It was discarded for its lack of performance.  I will always doubt the resurrection of a plane by a third party who is so possessive and intimate.  I won't ever believe the Fins were able to somehow jettison weight, add guns and suddenly it's awesome.  That would presume too many US wartime engineers missed something simple like weights and measures.

You're too easy, lol

[Karnak]

I find it fun to see how possessive you are with this turd of a plane.  One doesn't need to know a lot about aeronautical engineering to know in game, the Brewster performs classically better than the outcast aircraft it truly was.  It was discarded for its lack of performance.  I will always doubt the resurrection of a plane by a third party who is so possessive and intimate.  I won't ever believe the Fins were able to somehow jettison weight, add guns and suddenly it's awesome.  That would presume too many US wartime engineers missed something simple like weights and measures.

You're too easy, lol

That isn't what happened though.  The version the Finns got was the earlier, light version before a ton, literally, of weight was added to it.  Was it Boyington who got angry when it was brought up and said it was a sweet little ship that was ruined by the additional equipment that the navy put on it?

As far as lack of performance goes, the Brewster in AH has that in spades.  It can barely break 300mph in level flight.

[pervert]

The brew is pretty much a parasite aircraft in aces high, I am always shocked how people complain they are overmodelled? My guess is if they watched the film back they would see they were at a large energy disadvantage to start with.

[Megalodon]

Don't think you can call it "pretty much the same" when the engine isn't even in the same family.  Sure, the armament and views would be similar, though no Malcolm Hood, but the performance would be very different.  Much more different than between the P-51B and P-51D.

We get the 51A and more with this. In a perfect world we would have all the 51 varients.


But that is off topic

This is on topic



And would be perked

That is all,

[Karnak]

We get the 51A and more with this.

P-51A and A-36 would both be nice additions.  Although the only massively significant versions of the Mustang were the B/C and D, it would still be nice to get such a popular airframe more fleshed out.

In a perfect world we would have all the 51 varients.

Well, yeah, in a perfect world we'd have every version of everything that fought in WWII in the game...

[Megalodon]

P-51A and A-36 would both be nice additions.  Although the only massively significant versions of the Mustang were the B/C and D, it would still be nice to get such a popular airframe more fleshed out.

Well, yeah, in a perfect world we'd have every version of everything that fought in WWII in the game...

A36 and P-51 I agree

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pervert is right, the KI84 is extremely tough, it can take a major beating and still perform, it has surprised me with as much damage it took and still flew away.

I think it is one of, if not the toughest fighter, as far as taking damage goes, it equals the 47, maybe even takes a bit more.

one of the reasons I love it so