A-20 characteristics

[Yeager]

I approach the A-20 as a double engined zero with six 50 cal guns.  Always seemed like it was missing about 70% of its mass.  Whether it is or not?  who cares....that's just how I approach them.

[Debrody]

Totally untrue.

I was beating him one night in a very good one on one when we were inturrupted by friendlies.  We had a friendly PM exchange afterward.  I was posting some nice things about him in another forum after this.

We ran into one another again soon afterward and I think I won (but I'm not 100% sure).  He immediately PM'd or 200'd some lame excuse and how I wasn't any good blah blah blah.  He's hardly the great guy you think he is.  He's just another whiner.

Good (or not), but i have only written my experience. Its in a complete opposition of what i have seen from grayclif.
And i would rather hear Cobia's lame exuses nonstop for a month than the other one's deliriously narcissistic BS.
 

[Butcher]

He immediately PM'd or 200'd some lame excuse and how I wasn't any good blah blah blah.  He's hardly the great guy you think he is.  He's just another whiner.

We all have our good and bad days, Cobia is human after all despite what the rebels want you to believe.

/Go Tie fighter!

[MrRiplEy[H]]

There's definately something fishy there, last week I remember having serious trouble shaking his A20 off in vertical and I was in K4 with 300+mph startup speed.

[NikonGuy]

As soon as you said an A20 beat you I knew it would have been Cobia38 .. the guy is amazing in it.  Asymetric thrust handled properly can do amazing things Whether he uses that though I have no idea !!!

[Ack-Ack]

There's definately something fishy there, last week I remember having serious trouble shaking his A20 off in vertical and I was in K4 with 300+mph startup speed.

If he's got the E, going vertical was your mistake.  Just like the P-38, the A-20 is excellent in the vertical.

ack-ack

[MrRiplEy[H]]

If he's got the E, going vertical was your mistake.  Just like the P-38, the A-20 is excellent in the vertical.

ack-ack

Um.. the A20 should not handle 300+ speeds very good and I was in K4 of all things.

[HawkerMKII]

Have to agree with Grayclif on this one 100%. A20 in turn fight with fighters,with no E goes form 7k to 11k straight up, rolls over to keep on fighting, does end up getting shot down....but 4k straight up? (did have film but puter crashed)

[Ack-Ack]

Um.. the A20 should not handle 300+ speeds very good and I was in K4 of all things.

It handles quite well at 300mph IAS and it's energy retention in the vertical is quite good.

ack-ack

[BluBerry]

Have to agree with Grayclif on this one 100%. A20 in turn fight with fighters,with no E goes form 7k to 11k straight up, rolls over to keep on fighting, does end up getting shot down....but 4k straight up? (did have film but puter crashed)

if my comp crapped the bed right as i was noticing odd things in a game... I'd say case solved.

[dhaus]

Cobia certainly has the reputation of a Cod in the A20 and I've been on the receiving end of his lessons.  No chest thumping etc.  Just good fights and I learned what NOT to do against his A20.  If there is a question as to why he is so good, there is a simple solution: film every encounter with A20s and send them in to Hitech if it's cobia.  Only thing about this is that he has been so good in that thing for so long I suspect some fillms have probably been sent in and he's still here.

[RTHolmes]

has anyone who thinks the A20 is a bit dodgy bothered to learn to fight in it? Its really hard work. In some ways its like learning the Jug, but alot more so. Everything can outclimb and outaccelerate you, so you cant fight the other guy's fight and have to use its strengths, be able to do the basics really well, and make no mistakes. And if the other guy knows what hes doing, you'll still lose.

[NikonGuy]

If you look at the specs .. The weight of the A20 is 300Ib lighter than a 38J with 600hp more per engine.  Not as sleek therefore not as fast but buckets of power for the climb. So it's feasible

[muzik]

I seem to recall a story in Saburo Sakai's biography about a Boston of some variant (I believe it was the A20) surprising Sakai and a couple of his wingmen when it's pilot saw Zeroes moving in for the kill and began turning into the fighters and engaged them in a turn fight. It was futile, but I believe Sakai stated he was amazed by the ability of the pilot and the aircraft.

Yep, got to be careful around that Cobia fella. Bring spare fruit of the looms when he's about.

[Karnak]

I recall a back and forth between an A-20, Cobia perhaps, fan and Mossie fans as to which was the better fighter.  This was back before the Mossie's update.  The A-20 fan insisted that the A-20 was the better fighter because the Mossie's speed and climb advantage wasn't much.  After being put to the test the A-20 fan said that the Mossie's power and acceleration/climb advantage was better than he had thought it was.  He got one brief shot on the Mossie that caused no damage and from that point until the end the Mossie controlled the fight.  I think it was Cobia in the A-20G and Batfink in the Mossie, but I don't recall exactly.

If you are in a fighter, any fighter, don't play the A-20G's game and he doesn't have a massive E advantage at the start, you will win. It doesn't matter if it is Cobia or newb number guy.  Cobia will make it last longer, but the end result is the same.

On the other hand, if you take liberties like the OP did, well, Cobia'll kill ya.