War Thunder

[GScholz]

War Thunder is simply a game where realism doesn't exist... other than graphics. Example. The B-17 in War Thunder will push 400-480 before you run into problems...

Oh the irony...

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,355178.0.html

[XxDaSTaRxx]

Oh the irony...

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,355178.0.html

[MickDono]

I tried flying the Typhoon for a bit in WT.  It can hang on its prop at about 60 mph, then flips around like a P38 in AH!

[GScholz]

Typhoon stall speed at combat weight is around 80 mph, and that's with wings level. Why shouldn't a vertical Typhoon hang on its prop at 60 mph?

[Triton28]

Typhoon stall speed at combat weight is around 80 mph, and that's with wings level. Why shouldn't a vertical Typhoon hang on its prop at 60 mph?

You cherry picked the wrong part of that comment.  That he says it flipped around as well as a plane known for it's easy and precise hammerheads is what should make you ask yourself, "Self, WTF?"

 

[GScholz]

Making proper hammerheads have always been a problem in AH. I don't know why, but it's one of this game's little quirks. What you should ask yourself instead is: How easy was making hammerheads in the real Typhoon. When you have that answer you can start making comparisons to this game or the other. Making a comparison between two simulations without knowing the real-life baseline is pointless.

[gyrene81]

Making a comparison between two simulations without knowing the real-life baseline is pointless.

one of the two you speak of is not a simulation...unless you want to base the concept off of a simulation of a simulation.

[GScholz]

Truth be told, they're both games, not simulators. However both representations of the Typhoon in those games are simulations.

[Triton28]

Making proper hammerheads have always been a problem in AH. I don't know why, but it's one of this game's little quirks. What you should ask yourself instead is: How easy was making hammerheads in the real Typhoon. When you have that answer you can start making comparisons to this game or the other. Making a comparison between two simulations without knowing the real-life baseline is pointless.

Hammerheads are super easy in a 38 in AH.  The only issue you can really have is bad timing on the throttle/rudder.  Even that just makes you wash out a little at the bottom.      

I really don't have a dog in this fight, but if someone tells me a Typhoon in one simulation hammerheads like a 38 in another, that doesn't inspire confidence in the flight model.  You bring up a valid point, though.  We have no hard data to look at, but seriously, does it make any sense at all that a Typhoon could be as stable and responsive in low speed vertical maneuvers as a P-38?  

[gyrene81]

Truth be told, they're both games, not simulators. However both representations of the Typhoon in those games are simulations.

absolute truth be told, one of them does a far better job a simulating the dynamics of flight while the other is simply an illusion of flight.

[GScholz]

Hammerheads are super easy in a 38 in AH.  The only issue you can really have is bad timing on the throttle/rudder.  Even that just makes you wash out a little at the bottom.      

I really don't have a dog in this fight, but if someone tells me a Typhoon in one simulation hammerheads like a 38 in another, that doesn't inspire confidence in the flight model.  You bring up a valid point, though.  We have no hard data to look at, but seriously, does it make any sense at all that a Typhoon could be as stable and responsive in low speed vertical maneuvers as a P-38?  

Yep, but in real life hammerheads are fairly easy in single prop airplanes as well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZ8SqRAizkg

[GScholz]

absolute truth be told, one of them does a far better job a simulating the dynamics of flight while the other is simply an illusion of flight.

It's the old Il-2 vs AH argument all over again. Both Il-2 and WT (in FRB mode) simulate the aerodynamics of flight.

[Arlo]

It's the old Il-2 vs AH argument all over again. Both Il-2 and WT (in FRB mode) simulate the aerodynamics of flight.

Hell, a frisbee more than simulates. Thanks for the video of the stunt plane and how
WT uses that to 'accurately' simulate each individual plane it models. 

[GScholz]

 

[gyrene81]

It's the old Il-2 vs AH argument all over again. Both Il-2 and WT (in FRB mode) simulate the aerodynamics of flight.

tried frb in both...nope. i will give credit to wt in that at least the efluffied up fms are different, il2 were all the same.