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Offline Tank-Ace

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He 111
« on: July 01, 2013, 03:58:41 PM »
Despite everyone saying its crap, I have a good impression of it. Not real fast, but of course neither is a B-17. Guns are positioned a bit stupidly (for AH use anyway), but its nice and light at the controls.

Once I got down to one bomber, I had a fantastic fight with a 109F-4, and gave a mossie a rough time.

Fun little bomber overall.
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Re: He 111
« Reply #1 on: July 01, 2013, 04:16:57 PM »
The He-111 is pure crap. Slow to climb, defensive armament is rather weak and forget about high alt or speed. For scenarios and FSO its a decent 1940 bomber, I much prefer the Ju-88 at least for its speed.

Even the late war variants were not any good, but for the main arena its simply meat on the table for any fighter EW or late.
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Re: He 111
« Reply #2 on: July 01, 2013, 04:21:51 PM »
It may be fun, but it is so bad that it managed to achieve a worse K/D ratio than the armorless G4M1 'Betty'.
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Re: He 111
« Reply #3 on: July 01, 2013, 04:45:41 PM »
Too bad Skuzzy pulled the # of sortie stats years ago. I would like to see the loss % per sortie for the He 111 and the G4M

While being more vulnerable to hits, the G4M can shoot back more effectively an even more importantly: It climbs like a rocket, so it can quickly reach 20k, bomb a base close to the front line and retreat back into friendly airspace. A He 111 takes much longer to do that, which is increasing the risk of being noticed. Which usually means a certain death.
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Re: He 111
« Reply #4 on: July 01, 2013, 04:48:20 PM »
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Re: He 111
« Reply #5 on: July 01, 2013, 05:39:17 PM »
I have a 5 K/D in this bird. I love people thinking its an easy kill. :devil
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Re: He 111
« Reply #6 on: July 01, 2013, 05:51:08 PM »
Quote from: Fish42 on July 01, 2013, 05:39:17 PM
I have a 5 K/D in this bird.



Not against planes ;)
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Re: He 111
« Reply #7 on: July 01, 2013, 06:07:19 PM »
Quote from: Fish42 on July 01, 2013, 05:39:17 PM
I have a 5 K/D in this bird. I love people thinking its an easy kill. :devil
then you haven't met me yet :neener:
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Re: He 111
« Reply #8 on: July 01, 2013, 06:19:00 PM »
Quote from: Lusche on July 01, 2013, 05:51:08 PM


Not against planes ;)

fine :p 3 K/D vs planes this tour.
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Re: He 111
« Reply #9 on: July 01, 2013, 06:22:58 PM »
I still like it. It has a nice distribution of ordnance.
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Re: He 111
« Reply #10 on: July 01, 2013, 06:24:21 PM »
Quote from: Fish42 on July 01, 2013, 06:19:00 PM
fine :p 3 K/D vs planes this tour.


Which is only ~1 day old.  :P

Overall you are at 7-14 (K/D 0.5) vs planes in the He 111. Which is actually great for a He-111 pilot in the LW arena (seriously - it's about 5 times better than average!), but even more highlights that in general, the Spaten is mostly just a victim there  :old:
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Re: He 111
« Reply #11 on: July 01, 2013, 06:28:16 PM »
Quote from: Tank-Ace on July 01, 2013, 06:22:58 PM
I still like it. It has a nice distribution of ordnance.
Yes, it does have a nice list of options for ordnance.
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Re: He 111
« Reply #12 on: July 01, 2013, 06:33:53 PM »
Quote from: Lusche on July 01, 2013, 06:24:21 PM

Which is only ~1 day old.  :P

Overall you are at 7-14 (K/D 0.5) vs planes in the He 111. Which is actually great for a He-111 pilot in the LW arena (seriously - it's about 5 times better than average!), but even more highlights that in general, the Spaten is mostly just a victim there  :old:

Lol, ok ok. I did not help that K/D when I took a gunner and tried to dogfight with it.

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Re: He 111
« Reply #13 on: July 01, 2013, 06:42:09 PM »
Quote from: Fish42 on July 01, 2013, 06:33:53 PM
Lol, ok ok. I did not help that K/D when I took a gunner and tried to dogfight with it.


Hmmm When i think about it I imagine it could be more helpful than just holding still and waiting 'till you got shot down. Heck, you might even get a off a shot from your otherwise near useless MG/FF !  :old:
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Re: He 111
« Reply #14 on: July 01, 2013, 06:49:33 PM »
Quote from: Lusche on July 01, 2013, 06:42:09 PM

Hmmm When i think about it I imagine it could be more helpful than just holding still and waiting 'till you got shot down. Heck, you might even get a off a shot from your otherwise near useless MG/FF !  :old:

This is the most troubling thing I've ever read about hte He-111, ground strafing 20mms when the aircraft was unable to defend itself from rear attacks. If the 111 ever had 13mm or 20mms in the rear it would of certainly had a better survival rate.
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