Bf109 G14 issues

[alpini13]

didnt some late bf109g 14's and g-10's also have the larger tail of the K-4?   why not make a seperate model bf109 g-14/AS with the larger tail?/  if fellows are complaining that there are not many special events scenarios that would use such a plane......THEN CREATE ONE.   i think a strategic bombing scenario  for late 1944 western europe  in FSO would be great.

[Karnak]

didnt some late bf109g 14's and g-10's also have the larger tail of the K-4?   why not make a seperate model bf109 g-14/AS with the larger tail?/  if fellows are complaining that there are not many special events scenarios that would use such a plane......THEN CREATE ONE.   i think a strategic bombing scenario  for late 1944 western europe  in FSO would be great.

Because we don't need a late Bf109 that is high blown, we already have it in the K-4.  We need an earlier one, which is why I favor the Bf109G-6/AS over the Bf109G-14/AS.  The earlier the better.

What I'd do is add a Bf109G-6/AS with the later G-6 canopy and the 30mm option.

[jeffdn]

What I'd do is add a Bf109G-6/AS with the later G-6 canopy and the 30mm option.

I would absolutely love to go buff hunting in a high-alt G6 with a tater cannon and 20mm gun pods. I would be a happy camper. What would the speed curve look like on that?

[Motherland]

didnt some late bf109g 14's and g-10's also have the larger tail of the K-4?   why not make a seperate model bf109 g-14/AS with the larger tail?/  if fellows are complaining that there are not many special events scenarios that would use such a plane......THEN CREATE ONE.   i think a strategic bombing scenario  for late 1944 western europe  in FSO would be great.

You may be thinking G-6, most G-14s had the taller tail as does ours. Some later G-6s had various combinations of tall tail, MW-50 boost, and Erla-Haube canopy that differentiate our G-14 from our G-6.

[Zacherof]

Hunting spits in a G6 with taters? Yes please

[Ardy123]

I have in the past asked for a 109G-14/AS or a 109g6/AS but it has always met resistance from the community.

I also suspect finding documents and sorting it all out is a bit challenging but I'm sure there are some history bufs in the community who can help...

I believe that there wasn't 'one' engine for the 109-g14/AS... ie...
for the 109 -g14 & g14/as

DB605 / ASB(M) (B4 fuel) : 1800 PS
DB605 / ASC(M) (C3 fuel) : 2000 PS

I believe the 'M' was for methanol injection (wep) support.

Where the K4 had...

DB605 DB (B4 fuel) : 1850 PS
DB605 DC (C3 fuel) : 2000 PS

And I think (maybe wrong) even 'some' 109k4s had DB605 L engines which had a two stage super charger (2000+ PS)

Also note that at some time I think the Germans lowered the max power output for the DB 605s and then later removed that ceiling for some reason... don't remember the specifics though.

[Tank-Ace]

I have in the past asked for a 109G-14/AS or a 109g6/AS but it has always met resistance from the community.

Why  ?

[Ardy123]

Why  ?

Because I didn't market it properly, I suggested it as an hanger upgrade option which one could spend perks on...(functionally equivalent to making it a perk ride) Others felt it was a back handed way for me to want to create 'uber' rides to dominate others with.... which is what the me-262 & other perk planes are essentially already, but its all water under the bridge...

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,299107.0.html

[Karnak]

Because I didn't market it properly, I suggested it as an hanger upgrade option which one could spend perks on...(functionally equivalent to making it a perk ride) Others felt it was a back handed way for me to want to create 'uber' rides to dominate others with.... which is what the me-262 & other perk planes are essentially already, but its all water under the bridge...

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,299107.0.html

Bf109G-6/AS or Bf109G-14/AS is an uber ride?  Since when?  I'd love to see them added and I think I am pretty well known not to be the Luftwaffe's biggest fan here. 

[Franz Von Werra]

The best bullet proof glass made at the time of the 109s was made flat, which is why the framing.
So say what you want, but when rounds were pinging the windows, the early style might have been better for the pilot.

Further more, curved glass, in those days produced more distortion, even if flat at an angle.
Hence the steep front window of 109s - least distored view in the whole set of all ww2 planes.

Luft had all the aces: required pilot, plane, straight flying deadly amo, bullet proof glass, and least distorted windows.

For which 109 that I would like? g10as I guess. g6 was the most kills plane tho, not sure why not in game.

[bozon]

Because we don't need a late Bf109 that is high blown, we already have it in the K-4.  We need an earlier one, which is why I favor the Bf109G-6/AS over the Bf109G-14/AS.  The earlier the better.

What I'd do is add a Bf109G-6/AS with the later G-6 canopy and the 30mm option.

That will certainly get my vote.
+1

I am always in favor of strengthening the mid-war set, which is generally the best balanced and the G6/AS helps to balance the high-alt war. It fits perfectly and does not make any other model redundant.

After that, give us Mossie XXX to plug the high alt mossie fighter hole! 

[gyrene81]

Because I didn't market it properly, I suggested it as an hanger upgrade option which one could spend perks on...(functionally equivalent to making it a perk ride) Others felt it was a back handed way for me to want to create 'uber' rides to dominate others with.... which is what the me-262 & other perk planes are essentially already, but its all water under the bridge...

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,299107.0.html

lol, i remember that...back when you were being a franz and losing sleep posting goofy ideas.    things do change...albeit slowly.

never understood why high alt versions of the g6 and g14 weren't included...for general ma use it probably made sense for a while.

[Franz Von Werra]

sthu irene, still following me arround... stupid hater (of luftwaffes)!
You hate so much I question why you aren't still in the military...
No surprise you obviously aren't in marines(?) anymore...

I didn't post forever, only played last 3 of 5 years about.
Finally able to post...
Some stuff in this game is just plain annoying, finally can report.

Great game, potentially, but seems minor bugs can't get fixed... shame on htc!

[Karnak]

Great game, potentially, but seems minor bugs can't get fixed... shame on htc!

Which minor bugs were you thinking of?

[gyrene81]

sthu irene, still following me arround... stupid hater (of luftwaffes)!
You hate so much I question why you aren't still in the military...
No surprise you obviously aren't in marines(?) anymore...

I didn't post forever, only played last 3 of 5 years about.
Finally able to post...
Some stuff in this game is just plain annoying, finally can report.

Great game, potentially, but seems minor bugs can't get fixed... shame on htc!

         
if i understand your bizarre posting correctly you think i hate luftwaffe airplanes?           sorry sweetcheeks, up until my recent return i flew nothing but 109s and 190s and i still fly the g14...a lot. and there are not "minor bugs" in them, despite your imagination.

as to why i'm not in the corps anymore, i enlisted in 1981, after more than 30 years i shouldn't be in the corps anymore...hate was taught in bootcamp, lesson #1.