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Re: F4U-4 vs. other low ENY
« Reply #90 on: August 12, 2013, 07:10:56 AM »
I know few Pony/152 pilots in MA that use 100% fuel.


I do quite often, particularly with the Ta 152. But then I'm actually using it at the altitude it was made for... ;)
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Re: F4U-4 vs. other low ENY
« Reply #91 on: August 12, 2013, 07:21:18 AM »
Du you find any prey up there?
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« Reply #92 on: August 12, 2013, 07:27:11 AM »
Du you find any prey up there?


Yes, that's the reason I do fly it there. The majority of my kills in the Ta 152 are at 25K+
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« Reply #93 on: August 12, 2013, 07:59:22 AM »
Awesome!
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Re: F4U-4 vs. other low ENY
« Reply #94 on: August 12, 2013, 11:03:21 AM »

Yes, that's the reason I do fly it there. The majority of my kills in the Ta 152 are at 25K+
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Re: F4U-4 vs. other low ENY
« Reply #95 on: August 12, 2013, 11:15:52 AM »
I run 75% with the Ta 152 a fair bit. Although the only time I take full is on escort runs, and the DT is reserved exclusively for round trip strat escorting.



And Lusche, if you've figured out how to reliably escape that damnable flat spin, would you mind spending an a bit teaching me, next time I see you on?
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Re: F4U-4 vs. other low ENY
« Reply #96 on: August 12, 2013, 11:20:41 AM »
if you've figured out how to reliably escape that damnable flat spin

I haven't.  :)

But as I generally don't dogfight in it anmyore, it's not much of an issue to me.
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Re: F4U-4 vs. other low ENY
« Reply #97 on: August 12, 2013, 11:24:57 AM »
Engine off (not idle... Off!), gear down, opposite rudder and push nose down.
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Re: F4U-4 vs. other low ENY
« Reply #98 on: August 12, 2013, 11:35:14 AM »
Engine off (not idle... Off!), gear down, opposite rudder and push nose down.

That's it right there.  You do need a bit of alt to have enough time to recover.  Again, engine must be off.  I am also engine off for all landings in the TA152 as the tail has a strong tendency to slide left and snap the gear and then the wing(s).
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Re: F4U-4 vs. other low ENY
« Reply #99 on: August 12, 2013, 11:35:39 AM »
I haven't.  :)

But as I generally don't dogfight in it anmyore, it's not much of an issue to me.

Hehehehe....  So that's why you're always flying so high  :neener:.


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Re: F4U-4 vs. other low ENY
« Reply #100 on: August 12, 2013, 11:37:45 AM »
That's it right there.  You do need a bit of alt to have enough time to recover.  Again, engine must be off.  I am also engine off for all landings in the TA152 as the tail has a strong tendency to slide left and snap the gear and then the wing(s).

I have literally never had that happen to me  :confused:. Are you doing quick landings, where you're coming in at an off angle from a spiral dive?
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Re: F4U-4 vs. other low ENY
« Reply #101 on: August 12, 2013, 11:44:23 AM »
I have literally never had that happen to me  :confused:. Are you doing quick landings, where you're coming in at an off angle from a spiral dive?

No Jager.  I'm taking my time, lined up early, flaps out, gear down.  A careful approach to say the least.  Once that tail starts to slide left no amount of rudder makes it stop.  I am on the brakes which are either full on or full off, maybe that's part of the problem.  Even taxi'ing the dang thing is a handful for me.
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Re: F4U-4 vs. other low ENY
« Reply #102 on: August 12, 2013, 11:45:50 AM »
If done right away, you can recover but ............if it happens at super high altitude the conditions don't exist for a swift recovery and it progresses into a tail first drop that is not recoverable.

Believe me, when you fall from 41,000 feet tail first, you have plenty of time to try every single permutation of controls and power settings.

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Re: F4U-4 vs. other low ENY
« Reply #103 on: August 12, 2013, 11:49:22 AM »
Use individual wheel brakes to help steer, Zoney.
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Re: F4U-4 vs. other low ENY
« Reply #104 on: August 12, 2013, 12:03:47 PM »
I never use the brakes until I'm just rolling at walking speed. Three-point it and roll it out. Never had an issue landing the Tank or the 109.
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