This Is Exactly What You Want To Do To Every Driver On A Cell Phone

[doright]

The statement that talking and driving is just as distracting as TXTing and driving is pure BS.

Ah so we should just take your opinion as fact because it's your well studied opinion.

When I was learning to fly this was drilled into me: AVIATE, navigate, communicate. In that order of priority. Observing once in a professional cockpit on a long cross country jet flight, I was struck how the conversation stopped as soon as a radio call came, a control tasked was performed, etc. The conversation then resumed seemingly uninterrupted. The key was the conversation stopped and the brain was freed to perform the task with the required thought and diligence.

The difference between talking on a cell phone while driving and a cockpit (or even a auto passenger) is that the other party on the cell phone does not have the expectation of required pauses and the driver is expected to continue listening or talking despite the higher priority driving tasks at hand.

[surfinn]

Again more BS.
I was a flight paramedic for several years. Communication was absolutely vital for the helicopter to land safely in some of the areas we had to land in. ( 3ft clearance on the blades). We talked to each other constantly on the way to the call as well as several other support organizations. Talking and driving hinders you no more than talking to a passenger in your vehicle or dealing with 3 screaming kids in the back seat. TxTing and driving takes your eyes off the road while your replying to your BFF. Equating the two and lumping them in together is flat stupid.

[doright]

...We talked to each other constantly on the way to the call as well as several other support organizations. Talking and driving hinders you no more than talking to a passenger in your vehicle or dealing with 3 screaming kids in the back seat... Equating the two and lumping them in together is flat stupid.

But the communication was part of the task at hand, not the wife calling about how the 3 kids are driving her nuts and her new hair and nail polish color is just like what's her name on the Jersey Shore while trying to land with 3' rotor clearance.

So why, in your mind, is the mental priority giving to landing with 3' rotor clearance different then the priority that should be given when you are 3' from my car with 130mph closing speed.

[nrshida]

Ah so your a two hand on the wheel kinda guy.
The statement that talking and driving is just as distracting as TXTing and driving is pure BS. Hell rip your radio out of your Eco Hybrid bs car to while your at it. As far as your BS studies go its the same as all studies. You set out to make a point and find the best way to make it, then write a paper and call it a study that proves your BS point.

Oh and Implying that people are trying to kill you because they are talking on a phone is mental

Naturally texting takes your eyes off the road. Talking on the phone is different because the person you are talking to is not present in the vehicle.

There isn't any dispute in scientific circles that phone calls, even hands free CAN have a detrimental effect on a drivers ability to concentrate. One of my lecturers is one of Europe's leading experts in precisely this area.

[Rich46yo]

You can do what the hell you like Rich, as long as it doesn't effect other people, which talking and texting on your mobile phone while driving does / can.

As usual you are unable to grasp the true meaning of what I was saying. It had nothing to do with cell phone usage BTW.

[nrshida]

As usual you are unable to grasp the true meaning of what I was saying. It had nothing to do with cell phone usage BTW.

As usual? 

You took the opportunity to imply irrelevant loss of freedom & I pointed out the fault in what you like to call thinking 

[Waldo]

 There is nothing humorous about auto collisions and people getting injured, but when the subject comes up in conversation....

 I work in the auto collision industry and talking on the phone or texting while driving is good for business.

 There used to be a distinct difference in the type and amount of collisions between summer and winter. Summer was never busy and winter
was a perpetual overload of work. Nowadays it is always like winter time, never a break.

 Like I said, I don't like it when people get hurt.

[Rich46yo]

As usual? 

You took the opportunity to imply irrelevant loss of freedom & I pointed out the fault in what you like to call thinking 

Shida I bet Ive been to thousands of accident scenes and cant remember one that was caused by talking on a cell phone. But hey, what do I know?

It, the charge, is just another scam to beat the working stiff out of $150.

[surfinn]

There is not one single credible report that talking on the phone while driving is any more distracting to the driver of the vehicle than any other amount of mundane every day task they do in the same vehicle while driving.

Every report I've ever seen has a second agenda to push.

That is absolutely not the case with TxTing and driving. It has been proved to be worse than drunk driving.

There are and will continue to be sorry drivers in all country's around the world. This will not change   EVER!!!!!!

[Nashorn]

it always depends on the driver... I had someone pull up to my right side and start yelling at me for being on the phone for driving, the road narrowed into 1 lane from 2 and he did not notice and ended up jumping the curb almost hitting a pedestrian and then hitting a light post, so for everyone who is very against talking on the phone while behind the wheel, I don't agree, I think people just need to not be idiot drivers

[doright]

There is not one single credible report that talking on the phone while driving is any more distracting to the driver of the vehicle than any other amount of mundane every day task they do in the same vehicle while driving.

Here's the problems with that statement. The only report you would find credible is one that agreed with your preconceived idea, therefore you wrongly reason that there are no credible reports. Additionally you equate attentive driving to driving while performing "mundane every day task", whereas the rest of us are arguing that talking on a phone while driving is distracting to attentive driving. Not that talking on the phone is no more distracting then other distracted driving behaviors.

[surfinn]

Not that talking on the phone is no more distracting then other distracted driving behaviors.

That is precisely what I have been saying thank you

Hell this would make a good myth busters program

[nrshida]

It, the charge, is just another scam to beat the working stiff out of $150.

Sure, these sort of scams are everywhere, but if you know about it in advance...

Shida I bet Ive been to thousands of accident scenes and cant remember one that was caused by talking on a cell phone. But hey, what do I know?

I don't doubt you, but that's not a rigorous method to assert a hypothesis, what about VonMessa's story? There's your proof by contradiction to your 'for all' assertion.

I'm sure you know a lot Rich, just your delivery could use some work 

There is not one single credible report that talking on the phone while driving is any more distracting to the driver of the vehicle than any other amount of mundane every day task they do in the same vehicle while driving.

Every report I've ever seen has a second agenda to push.

At my University they have a driving simulator lab and they run experiments constantly with overloading a driver's attention and then monitoring his / her ability to assimilate and prioritize tasks. Just like SA in AH, every distraction contributes to a reduction. If you throw in a critical driving situation right at the point of a critical conversation normal people (as opposed to fighter pilots, even simulated ones  ) just aren't very good at sorting that out.

Chatting to someone in the car is slightly different because they are present and can also observe the driving situation. Even talking on a hands free set detracts although it's probably at the lower end of the list. You are right about the other mundane tasks people do, they shouldn't do those either and some of them are worse. Once I rode my motorcycle behind a car driver who was having a shave and putting on his tie etc at 70 m.p.h. on a dual carriage way 

There are and will continue to be sorry drivers in all country's around the world. This will not change   EVER!!!!!!

Yup, and the ever increasing WALL·E movement in product design and especially the motor industry is amplifying that 

[rpm]

Dont smoke, dont not wear a helmut, dont cross in the middle of the street, dont drink a coca-cola thats to large, dont talk on a cell phone..the list goes on. Cameras here, cameras there. How lucky we all are to have big Bro looking out for us.

If you have no problem with somebody slamming into the car with your kids because they were texting, do you have problems with a drunk driver doing the same thing?

[RotBaron]

ehhh I wish the honda accord I rear-ended thought that no damage was done, you know since I was talking on a cell phone and obviously not distracted-therefore no damage could have been done.

$3k for some headlamps & bumper.