The K4 and gun pods

[LCADolby]

It is my understanding that the 109Ks could manage MG151 (as with the G series) and Mk108 in under wing gun pods/gondolas.
I hear the K6 had the 108s in the wings 

Is there any particular reason they are absent on the AH K4?

[Karnak]

Were they ever used?

[Tank-Ace]

K6 never entered mass production, IIRC. And I think the 30mm gondolas weren't ready before the war ended.

[LCADolby]

My K series knowledge is very lacking, thanks jager. But, what about the MG 151 gunpods?

[morfiend]

 The K4's wings were quite capable of carrying the gondolas,they had the wiring and attachments from the factory.

  I read once that,IIRC JG26 got K4's with the gondies attached direct from the factory! They then promptly removed them! I have spent many hours searching for even just 1 picture of a K4 with gondies and have never been successful.

  The only K series 109 that made production was the K4. They may have built 2 K6's but they were more test beds than anything else.


   

  PS: several early production K4's were equipped with 20mm hub guns because of a lack of 108's.

[Zacherof]

It is my understanding that the 109Ks could manage MG151 (as with the G series) and Mk108 in under wing gun pods/gondolas.
I hear the K6 had the 108s in the wings 

Is there any particular reason they are absent on the AH K4?

3 108's? Sheesh!
So much fun that would be.

[Tank-Ace]

The K4's wings were quite capable of carrying the gondolas,they had the wiring and attachments from the factory.

  I read once that,IIRC JG26 got K4's with the gondies attached direct from the factory! They then promptly removed them! I have spent many hours searching for even just 1 picture of a K4 with gondies and have never been successful.

20mm or 30mm gondies? Could have sworn I've read the 30mm's weren't ready. Something to do with insufficient ammo in the then-current configuration, IIRC.

 

  PS: several early production K4's were equipped with 20mm hub guns because of a lack of 108's.

So essentially hot-rod G-10's  

[Zacherof]

20mm or 30mm gondies? Could have sworn I've read the 30mm's weren't ready. Something to do with insufficient ammo in the then-current configuration, IIRC.

 
So essentially hot-rod G-10's  

So what's the difference between the g14 and g10?
Both have the same guns, top speed and relatively same climb rate. 

[Karnak]

So what's the difference between the g14 and g10?
Both have the same guns, top speed and relatively same climb rate. 

G-10 is faster and has better altitude performance.  It is basically a G with a K's engine.  It is draggier than the K so it is slower, but it would have the same critical altitudes.

[morfiend]

20mm or 30mm gondies? Could have sworn I've read the 30mm's weren't ready. Something to do with insufficient ammo in the then-current configuration, IIRC.

 
So essentially hot-rod G-10's  

  You were the only one who mentioned 30mm gondies,the K6 had them in the wing,not a gondola package!

   The 109's only used 20mm gondolas and those are what I was talking about.

 Also, no it wouldn't be a hot-rodded G10 it would be a K4 with a 20 mm hubgun,atleast 25 mph faster than the G10. However it wasn't put in series production so according to your rule for inclusion it shouldn't be allowed!  Just because they had to put a 20 mm in a few planes do to lack of the proper weapon doesn't mean it deserves to be ingame..........


   See how that works......    However it's complete hogwash because I've never seen or read any ``rules`` other than they would like to have seen service.



   

[Tank-Ace]

  You were the only one who mentioned 30mm gondies,the K6 had them in the wing,not a gondola package!

   The 109's only used 20mm gondolas and those are what I was talking about.

 Also, no it wouldn't be a hot-rodded G10 it would be a K4 with a 20 mm hubgun,atleast 25 mph faster than the G10. However it wasn't put in series production so according to your rule for inclusion it shouldn't be allowed!  Just because they had to put a 20 mm in a few planes do to lack of the proper weapon doesn't mean it deserves to be ingame..........


   See how that works......    However it's complete hogwash because I've never seen or read any ``rules`` other than they would like to have seen service.

   

Hmm...  Must be misremembering it then.

And sounds a hell of a lot like a faster G-10, considering it had the same engine, critical altitude, and similar handling.

No, I don't want it in the game if only a few carried then.

Finally, I've already told you they are de facto requirements, you senile twit. HTC has yet to break them in going on 14 years, and I can't see them changing that for something as stupid as the P-63.

[Butcher]

Hmm...  Must be misremembering it then.

And sounds a hell of a lot like a faster G-10, considering it had the same engine, critical altitude, and similar handling.

No, I don't want it in the game if only a few carried then.

Finally, I've already told you they are de facto requirements, you senile twit. HTC has yet to break them in going on 14 years, and I can't see them changing that for something as stupid as the P-63.

This is where your ignorance comes in, Its been proven the P-63 seen service. Sorry your prototype won't see aces high because its a prototype.
Lets say it again. Prototypes do not get added in Aces High. Repeat 9 more times now. Now do you understand the difference between the P-63 and K-6?
Jumping up and down and screaming because you don't get your way is just a fact of life. Sorry you don't want the P-63 to enter aces high but fact is you won't get your way on it.

P-63 will enter aces high eventually no matter how much of a temper tantrum you throw.

[morfiend]

Hmm...  Must be misremembering it then.

And sounds a hell of a lot like a faster G-10, considering it had the same engine, critical altitude, and similar handling.

No, I don't want it in the game if only a few carried then.

Finally, I've already told you they are de facto requirements, you senile twit. HTC has yet to break them in going on 14 years, and I can't see them changing that for something as stupid as the P-63.

 Hmm you misremember and I'm the senile twit......ya right!    Even if those socalled rules of inclusion are taken as fact the P63 would qualify....


   You seem to know so much about AH maybe you should be the trainer and not this senile twit,lets see how that goes for you!




    

[Butcher]

  PS: several early production K4's were equipped with 20mm hub guns because of a lack of 108's.

I've been trying to find a photo of a K4 with a 20mm just to prove a case it could be added, however I cannot find any photos.

[Tank-Ace]

 Hmm you misremember and I'm the senile twit......ya right!    Even if those socalled rules of inclusion are taken as fact the P63 would qualify....

Since this isn't the first time, yes, yes you are.


 

You seem to know so much about AH maybe you should be the trainer and not this senile twit,lets see how that goes for you!

    

Not a good enough stick to train.