Hi Tech Decision on P-63

[nrshida]

The P-39 deserves to be in the game as much as the next aircraft, whether we get the P-63 or not doesn't matter because even if they add the I-153 or Gloster Gladiator both planes have a deserved spot in Aces high, no matter how old or slow the plane is, if it served in WW2 it deserves to be in Aces High.

Well said Butcher 

[muzik]

But he just ignores the fact that it will be actually used very little.

If this plane is as good as they say, I am certain you are wrong about this. It may be perked, but it will not be outrageous if at all.

I am guessing here, but it appears the 63 has the same HORRID cockpit visibility as the 39. That is enough of a disadvantage to counter half of its superior qualities. It will be mince meat for any comparable fighter that can catch one in a co-E fight.

I doubt there will be any perks at all.

[Butcher]

If this plane is as good as they say, I am certain you are wrong about this. It may be perked, but it will not be outrageous if at all.

I am guessing here, but it appears the 63 has the same HORRID cockpit visibility as the 39. That is enough of a disadvantage to counter half of its superior qualities. It will be mince meat for any comparable fighter that can catch one in a co-E fight.

I doubt there will be any perks at all.

It will get used, tank just assumes it won't. Problem with the aircraft lineup we have that are perked, not many interest me - I'm not a corsair fan, and 262s are expensive. If the Yak-3 had a pair of 20mm with 200 rpg I'd be flying that perk baby every sortie.
My point is we have a very limited perk selection, it would be nice to expand it a little.

[Blinder]

If we can have an unmitigated disaster like the Brewster Buffalo in AH, then please put the KingCobra in this game!

Just my 8 cents. ( up from two cents for to cover the costs of Obamacare.)  

[Karnak]

If we can have an unmitigated disaster like the Brewster Buffalo in AH, then please put the KingCobra in this game!

Just my 8 cents. ( up from two cents for to cover the costs of Obamacare.)  

You seriously need to do some actual reading.  On multiple subjects.  Offering opinions on things you, self evidently, know nothing about only provides illumination about your shortcomings, not your target's shortcomings.

[Vinkman]

You seriously need to do some actual reading.  On multiple subjects.  Offering opinions on things you, self evidently, know nothing about only provides illumination about your shortcomings, not your target's shortcomings.

Krusty, really, who made you judge of everyone's posts? Was that a help to the thread?

[Lusche]

If we can have an unmitigated disaster like the Brewster Buffalo in AH

You should really read up on the B-239 and it's operational history before making statements

[morfiend]

You should really read up on the B-239 and it's operational history before making statements

  Why?  Isnt it easier to just go by what you're told?  I wish HTC would add the brew,a B-239 with about another 1000 lbs just so players can compare apples to oranges!



   

[Butcher]

  Why?  Isnt it easier to just go by what you're told?  I wish HTC would add the brew,a B-239 with about another 1000 lbs just so players can compare apples to oranges!



  

So what you are trying to say that most people dont' understand - the Brewster Buffalo being 1,000lbs heavier would fly like a pig and get schooled by just about everything in game where the B-239 actually was a decent aircraft losing the weight?

Now I understand! WOW that was easy to figure out! The B-239 is lighter which makes it a better aircraft unlike its pig for a cousin! Oh boy if I could figure that out I wonder who else could, maybe the whining over the B-239 wonder plane will end now because even I figured it out! (Seriously just how many don't understand why and will continue to argue till no end).

[Arlo]

Krusty, really, who made you judge of everyone's posts? Was that a help to the thread?

Krusty? 

[Randy1]

. . . I am guessing here, but it appears the 63 has the same HORRID cockpit visibility as the 39. That is enough of a disadvantage to counter half of its superior qualities. It will be mince meat for any comparable fighter that can catch one in a co-E fight. . . .

The secret to the " . . . HORRID cockpit visibility .  . ." of the P39 is to keep the red guys in front at all times.    

The canon is really more of a problem than the thick cockpit braces.  Lots of power in the canon but if you are not a dead shot, then you are dead  if the other plane doesn't bleed off E quick enough to give you a second shot.  The add power of the 63 would help in closure time allowing you get in closer, quicker for a higher percentage shot.

I am interested in the 63 from the standpoint does it live up to the lore real or not.  I wonder if it does?  Were there dirty politics involved by North American to interfere with an earlier development of the King Cobra? Maybe Bell had lead feet?  Maybe the designers could never see the forest for the trees with the less than stellar canon-MG package.   As I noted before a friend who flew the 39 in the war had an ashamed tone in his voice when he spoke of having to fly the P39.  This stigma may have had deep roots in the pentagon as well.

[Vinkman]

Krusty, really, who made you judge of everyone's posts? Was that a help to the thread?

My apologies to Krusty. I meant Karnak.

Nice catch Arlo. 

[Arlo]

My apologies to Krusty. I meant Karnak.

Nice catch Arlo. 

 

[Ack-Ack]

As I noted before a friend who flew the 39 in the war had an ashamed tone in his voice when he spoke of having to fly the P39.  This stigma may have had deep roots in the pentagon as well.

There was a player in Air Warrior, a WW2 vet that went by the handle of Earl1 (his P-47, "Viking" is skinned in this game), flew the P-39, P-38G and P-47 in the MTO.  When he was asked which plane he enjoyed flying the most, he replied that it was the P-39, which he flew during convoy escort duties.  He did mention that in inexperienced hands, it was a difficult plane to fly but if you knew the ins and outs of the plane, it was a joy.

ack-ack

[muzik]

Krusty, really, who made you judge of everyone's posts? Was that a help to the thread?

It was an honest mistake Vink, the resemblance is uncanny. They could be twins.