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Offline 2bighorn

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Re: America's Cup
« Reply #15 on: September 11, 2013, 03:32:10 PM »
Quote from: ozrocker on September 11, 2013, 03:17:55 PM
US is only mad because the Aussies or Kiwi's always seem to win it :rofl :rofl



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So how many times AUS and NZ won, and how many times US?

Oh yeah!
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Re: America's Cup
« Reply #16 on: September 12, 2013, 06:06:06 PM »
NZ up 6 to 1 over USA. Three more wins for NZ and the Cup goes back to NZ.
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Re: America's Cup
« Reply #17 on: September 12, 2013, 09:07:32 PM »
Quote from: 2bighorn on September 11, 2013, 03:32:10 PM
:rofl

So how many times AUS and NZ won, and how many times US?

Oh yeah!

Proportionally to how many times we've competed we're doing pretty well ;)

But then again the US is not that experienced in competing in 'world cups' where anyone but themselves turn up  :devil
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Re: America's Cup
« Reply #18 on: September 14, 2013, 05:25:37 PM »
Quote from: Vulcan on September 12, 2013, 09:07:32 PM
Proportionally to how many times we've competed we're doing pretty well ;)

Not really. NYYC has 25 wins and 1 loss, RPYC has record of 1 win and 3 losses and RNZYS 2-2, soon to be 3 wins, 2 losses. That's 4th in winning percentage, behind the NYYC (25-1), SDYC (3-1) and SNDG (2-1)

Quote from: Vulcan on September 12, 2013, 09:07:32 PM
But then again the US is not that experienced in competing in 'world cups' where anyone but themselves turn up  :devil

It's called America's Cup  :neener:
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Re: America's Cup
« Reply #19 on: September 25, 2013, 06:27:57 PM »
Quote from: 2bighorn on September 14, 2013, 05:25:37 PM
Not really. NYYC has 25 wins and 1 loss, RPYC has record of 1 win and 3 losses and RNZYS 2-2, soon to be 3 wins, 2 losses. That's 4th in winning percentage, behind the NYYC (25-1), SDYC (3-1) and SNDG (2-1)

It's called America's Cup  :neener:

Urgh, I guess I gave too much credit to Kiwis. Must be one of the biggest chokes in history of sports.
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Offline Buzzard7

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Re: America's Cup
« Reply #20 on: September 25, 2013, 08:45:15 PM »
Not choked. The US team just finally figured out how to race their boat.


Last I remember a 12 meter boat didn't ever have to be a single hull. It just had to go by the formula. They would have DQ'ed a boat that outclassed the rest but it just had to be 12 meter or under. Hell they raced a tri-hull not to long ago. Would be interesting to see if they could foil a single hull.
I don't think they could go fast enough to lift it out of the water.
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Re: America's Cup
« Reply #21 on: September 25, 2013, 08:52:21 PM »
So US won. Surprise, surprise :rock






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Re: America's Cup
« Reply #22 on: September 25, 2013, 10:24:47 PM »
Quote from: Buzzard7 on September 25, 2013, 08:45:15 PM
Not choked. The US team just finally figured out how to race their boat.


Last I remember a 12 meter boat didn't ever have to be a single hull. It just had to go by the formula. They would have DQ'ed a boat that outclassed the rest but it just had to be 12 meter or under. Hell they raced a tri-hull not to long ago. Would be interesting to see if they could foil a single hull.
I don't think they could go fast enough to lift it out of the water.

If I recall the AC boats in '87 had a winged keel, but they weren't intended to lift the boat out of the water but to instead enable the boat to carry more sail for a given wind condition.

Real surprised that the Americans were able to pull this one out as in the first few matches they seemed outclassed by the Kiwi's.
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Re: America's Cup
« Reply #23 on: September 25, 2013, 10:35:28 PM »
Quote from: SIK1 on September 25, 2013, 10:24:47 PM
If I recall the AC boats in '87 had a winged keel, but they weren't intended to lift the boat out of the water but to instead enable the boat to carry more sail for a given wind condition.
It was allowing that winged keel that led us down the slippery slope to the "flying cats" we have today. It is not 12 Meter yacht racing, it is my $100,000,000M computer design vs your $100,000,000M computer design. Ever wonder why there's only 4 boats now?
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Re: America's Cup
« Reply #24 on: September 25, 2013, 10:48:11 PM »
Quote from: MiloMorai on September 12, 2013, 06:06:06 PM
NZ up 6 to 1 over USA. Three more wins for NZ and the Cup goes back to NZ.

But it stays here.   Poor Kiwis.
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Re: America's Cup
« Reply #25 on: September 25, 2013, 11:13:03 PM »
Quote from: 2bighorn on September 25, 2013, 06:27:57 PM
Urgh, I guess I gave too much credit to Kiwis. Must be one of the biggest chokes in history of sports.

Nah, last race illustrated the american boat was just to fast... the automated foil system definitely gave it the edge - it's debatable whether an electrical automated trimming system is in the spirit of yachting but it had already been declared legal. Ironically there are a lot of kiwi's behind the design and build of the USA boat (word is they flew a 30 person boat design team over from NZ when oracle was losing).
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Re: America's Cup
« Reply #26 on: September 25, 2013, 11:18:32 PM »
Its ironic that 4 of the crew members on the US boat including the captain are Australian.
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Re: America's Cup
« Reply #27 on: September 25, 2013, 11:24:18 PM »
Quote from: rpm on September 25, 2013, 10:35:28 PM
Ever wonder why there's only 4 boats now?

There are more. Don't forget Louis Vuitton cup. And they also have smaller class for America's cup world series.
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Re: America's Cup
« Reply #28 on: September 26, 2013, 05:51:42 AM »
Quote from: Vulcan on September 25, 2013, 11:13:03 PM
Nah, last race illustrated the american boat was just to fast... the automated foil system definitely gave it the edge - it's debatable whether an electrical automated trimming system is in the spirit of yachting but it had already been declared legal. Ironically there are a lot of kiwi's behind the design and build of the USA boat (word is they flew a 30 person boat design team over from NZ when oracle was losing).

You and Milo should have an "Excusemakers Cuddling Slumber Party".   The Kiwi's choked.
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Re: America's Cup
« Reply #29 on: September 26, 2013, 07:10:55 AM »
Quote from: Masherbrum on September 26, 2013, 05:51:42 AM
You and Milo should have an "Excusemakers Cuddling Slumber Party".   The Kiwi's choked.

Where did I make an excuse post?
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