Re-Arm Options

[Arlo]

incidentally, i know this is difficult to grasp but, if the plane was flyable and wasn't being serviced in some manner, it would be sitting on the ready line 100% full of fuel and gun ammo.

Does this mean you are advocating a change in hangar selection? There should be no 25%, 50% or 75% fuel options since all that would have been done in real life is 100%?

[gyrene81]

Does this mean you are advocating a change in hangar selection? There should be no 25%, 50% or 75% fuel options since all that would have been done in real life is 100%?

  you're a rat ya know?    but i'll play along anyway. if it were up to me, there wouldn't be choice in fuel except 100% and drop tanks. sure that would require other changes as well. i can think of ways that would really make the strats the primo targets they should be, which in turn would change the locations of the hordes.

[Arlo]

  you're a rat ya know?    but i'll play along anyway. if it were up to me, there wouldn't be choice in fuel except 100% and drop tanks. sure that would require other changes as well. i can think of ways that would really make the strats the primo targets they should be, which in turn would change the locations of the hordes.

I did fly as a 'GroveRat' for awhile.

I know it's a slight deviation from op but ... I'd like to hear your ideas about practical changes that would make strategic targets important enough to influence strategy. They should be. 

[Armkreuz]

I have a question about the fuel. Why am I getting so much resistance for wanting control over my fuel load? Why do you care. I mean...What will it take away from you if I change my fuel load. You could do the same thing. It's my plane....Why would you care? I mean...here is another example. What if I had taken off the field with 50% fuel and no bombs. The fight ensues near the base. We beat em back. They start to retreat. I land for more fuel, but I THEN need to add fuel for farther fight AND I need bombs for a counter attack. You gonna whine about adding weight to the plane? Since I left with no bombs....I have to have bomb racks now. What do I do? Since you would penalize anyone who did away with bombs at re-arm pad by making them carry racks anyway, do I have to put bomb racks on or do I just carry em in the cockpit and drop em over the side? There is a point when the ying yanging gets silly. I think we have reached that point in this thread. I though common sense would prevail. I was obviously wrong in the "WISH" forum. I guess watch out what you wish for in here. Anyway....That is my wish....

[guncrasher]

I have a question about the fuel. Why am I getting so much resistance for wanting control over my fuel load? Why do you care. I mean...What will it take away from you if I change my fuel load. You could do the same thing. It's my plane....Why would you care? I mean...here is another example. What if I had taken off the field with 50% fuel and no bombs. The fight ensues near the base. We beat em back. They start to retreat. I land for more fuel, but I THEN need to add fuel for farther fight AND I need bombs for a counter attack. You gonna whine about adding weight to the plane? Since I left with no bombs....I have to have bomb racks now. What do I do? Since you would penalize anyone who did away with bombs at re-arm pad by making them carry racks anyway, do I have to put bomb racks on or do I just carry em in the cockpit and drop em over the side? There is a point when the ying yanging gets silly. I think we have reached that point in this thread. I though common sense would prevail. I was obviously wrong in the "WISH" forum. I guess watch out what you wish for in here. Anyway....That is my wish....

nobody likes to make it more gamey that what it already is.  plan your sorties accordingly.


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[Wofat]

Heck, just give us the option to take out the re-arm pad.

[Arlo]

Heck, just give us the option to take out the re-arm pad.

That's a different wish. Sure. Even link it to the hangars being down. But that has nothing to do with offering re-arming/re-fueling options without towering.

[gyrene81]

I have a question about the fuel. Why am I getting so much resistance for wanting control over my fuel load? Why do you care. I mean...What will it take away from you if I change my fuel load. You could do the same thing. It's my plane....Why would you care? I mean...here is another example. What if I had taken off the field with 50% fuel and no bombs. The fight ensues near the base. We beat em back. They start to retreat. I land for more fuel, but I THEN need to add fuel for farther fight AND I need bombs for a counter attack. You gonna whine about adding weight to the plane? Since I left with no bombs....I have to have bomb racks now. What do I do? Since you would penalize anyone who did away with bombs at re-arm pad by making them carry racks anyway, do I have to put bomb racks on or do I just carry em in the cockpit and drop em over the side? There is a point when the ying yanging gets silly. I think we have reached that point in this thread. I though common sense would prevail. I was obviously wrong in the "WISH" forum. I guess watch out what you wish for in here. Anyway....That is my wish....

haven't been able to come up with a single real life instance yet i see...

[Arlo]

haven't been able to come up with a single real life instance yet i see...

Thought you made that challenge to me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNOKXfZTEAE

 

[gyrene81]

Thought you made that challenge to me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNOKXfZTEAE

 

           poopoo head...no the challenge wasn't to you.

i dare you to find a single account of a pilot that demanded less than 100% fuel in his plane so he could go into a combat situation with it...

and battle of britain the movie isn't a real life account.   

[Arlo]

           poopoo head...no the challenge wasn't to you.


and battle of britain the movie isn't a real life account.   

But it was based on one ... or several. Guess that leaves whether or not one believes that scene was accurate.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Britain_%28film%29

Interesting trivia:

Ron Goodwin's score opens with the "Luftwaffe March", later retitled "Aces High", in the style of a traditional German military march in 6/8 time.

During filming, Galland, who was acting as a German technical advisor, took exception to a scene where Kesselring is shown giving the Nazi salute, rather than the standard military salute. Journalist Leonard Mosley witnessed Galland spoiling the shooting and having to be escorted off the set. Galland subsequently threatened to withdraw from the production, warning "dire consequences for the film if the scene stayed in."[23] However, when the finished scene was screened before Galland and his lawyer, he was persuaded to accept the scene after all.

[gyrene81]

ya and my butt is based on a

But it was based on one ... or several. Guess that leaves whether or not one believes that scene was accurate.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Britain_%28film%29

hollywood dramatic license, i would have done the same thing since the pilot who was credited with giving that order was not around to say whether it was correct or not...

[Arlo]

ya and my butt is based on a hollywood dramatic license, i would have done the same thing since the pilot who was credited with giving that order was not around to say whether it was correct or not...

Odds are, the Germans didn't give them time for everyone to fill their petrol tanks. Can we at least agree on that? 

[gyrene81]

Odds are, the Germans didn't give them time for everyone to fill their petrol tanks. Can we at least agree on that? 

to get the hell out of france and back to england? ok, sure, i agree. the prudent thing to do would be to try and get to another airbase where full service could be had before trying to cross the channel...

[DREDIOCK]

Personally I think if say ord is knocked out at a field then even the rearm pad shouldnt supply new bombs. the best you should be able to get is fuel and bullets.

Same thing with fuel If fuel is knocked down to 100% then drop tanks shouldnt be available. If knocked down to 75% then thats all you should be able to get even on the rearm pad