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Offline MiloMorai

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Re: Best Heavy Fighter
« Reply #390 on: November 24, 2013, 12:02:04 AM »
Ww problems.. there were plenty.. from airframe to engines..

Westland as a plane maker - had a bad rep..& almost got banned.. L.O.L...

Little short on specifics jaw.

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Re: Best Heavy Fighter
« Reply #391 on: November 24, 2013, 12:12:06 AM »
To cut to the chase..

..After the slow & painful production of ~100 Ww's

Westland were told -

..'don't bother with any more, build something useful instead - Spitfires.'

But they were shockers at doing that too.. 
"Cybermen don't make promises..
Such ideas have no value."

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Re: Best Heavy Fighter
« Reply #392 on: November 24, 2013, 12:30:48 AM »
still a wee bit short on specifics jaw


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Re: Best Heavy Fighter
« Reply #393 on: November 24, 2013, 12:36:58 AM »
If you're the Ww fan-boi - M.M., you can look it up & post it..

..It is really a bit too lame - to interest me any further than that..
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Re: Best Heavy Fighter
« Reply #394 on: November 24, 2013, 12:46:37 AM »
If you're the Ww fan-boi - M.M., you can look it up & post it..

..It is really a bit too lame - to interest me any further than that..

you are the one making the statement so it is up to you to back up the statement.

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Re: Best Heavy Fighter
« Reply #395 on: November 24, 2013, 12:56:41 AM »
Ah, wrong again there M.M.,

 I have summarised the facts.. ..period..

But - if you are keen on the Ww minutia - you can post it..

You will indeed find  - that it won't  contradict my cogent summary..

& just may embarrass you further..
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Such ideas have no value."

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Re: Best Heavy Fighter
« Reply #396 on: November 24, 2013, 01:03:35 AM »
you made the statement, it is up to you to post the minutia jaw.

why would it embarrass me?

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Re: Best Heavy Fighter
« Reply #397 on: November 24, 2013, 01:13:03 AM »
Well if you have no shame - it might not..

But by way of explanation.. ..& since you insist...

..the following Homer J. quote might do nicely..

DOHHH!...
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Such ideas have no value."

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Re: Best Heavy Fighter
« Reply #398 on: November 24, 2013, 01:24:30 AM »
Look M.M., it comes down to this..

I don't mind digging the dirt to 'demolish'[ as Widey put it] the P-38 myth..

But the Ww is just so low on the 'best heavy fighter' list..

.. & that it is - is so self-evident - that no more time need be wasted on it ..

Got it , now?

"Cybermen don't make promises..
Such ideas have no value."

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Re: Best Heavy Fighter
« Reply #399 on: November 24, 2013, 01:30:58 AM »
& actually, that is what the British - MAP & RAF  - thought too..
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Re: Best Heavy Fighter
« Reply #400 on: November 24, 2013, 01:36:00 AM »
right TROLL.

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Re: Best Heavy Fighter
« Reply #401 on: November 24, 2013, 01:40:42 AM »
Yeah, right ..L.O.L..

& M.M., kindly refer to the apropos quote in post # 305, this thread..

That is all...
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Re: Best Heavy Fighter
« Reply #402 on: November 24, 2013, 03:33:41 AM »
Yup, be sure a TROLL.

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Re: Best Heavy Fighter
« Reply #403 on: November 24, 2013, 04:37:32 AM »
Nup, that'd be Milo Minderbinder..

Still - that low flying sequence in the movie was bloody impressive..
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Re: Best Heavy Fighter
« Reply #404 on: November 24, 2013, 05:16:47 AM »
Look M.M., it comes down to this..

I don't mind digging the dirt to 'demolish'[ as Widey put it] the P-38 myth..

But the Ww is just so low on the 'best heavy fighter' list..

.. & that it is - is so self-evident - that no more time need be wasted on it ..

Got it , now?

So basically, you can't back up your inane crap, and so you're going to say its not worth your time to avoid looking like an arse. I mean do you really, honestly think you're fooling anyone?


Because quite frankly, you're transparent as glass, and stupid to boot. Do you even remember that M.M. (because god forbid you take the 5 seconds to type out MiloMorai, instead of using those lazy, careless initials) isn't arguing the Whirlwind is the best heavy fighter? He's just using it as an example to show you that Hawker was by no means first to use a bubble canopy, or 20mm's. You come out saying the whirlwind sucked, and when he merely asks about the problems you attribute to the Whirlwind, you post uncited quotes as evidence, and then say that its Milo's job to do what you should have done about 13 posts back.

Besides that, the last 2 pages have had barely a thing to do with heavy fighters. Instead its just been you spewing your drivel, like hawker being the first to use bubble canopies, and implying that quad 20mm's is somehow innovative, and others trying to talk sense to you.

And before that, it was you trying to argue (and making a complete hash of that, I might add) over high altitude performance, which is ENTIRELY irrelevant for a JABO aircraft. And before that, it was you wacking off to your inline engines, and calling the radials "fat" and "lazy".



Oh, and I'm curious as to your obsession with initials. What do yours stand for, "jack-arse banana"?
« Last Edit: November 24, 2013, 05:20:22 AM by Tank-Ace »
You started this thread and it was obviously about your want and desire in spite of your use of 'we' and Google.

"Once more unto the breach"