China pushing Japan again.

[MrRiplEy[H]]

They will at war in 2 years time

Ripley a US investment company owns the chinese factory that makes those dinner trays

Sure, China reaps taxes, salaries, customs etc. from everything and grow their export balance. They're the winners on nation level. It makes no difference if Haliburton sucks your government dry, it's tax dollars conveniently sucked to private individuals.

Every dollar your country is spending waging war is dropping to the exporters bucket, figuratively speaking. Of course 80 cents of that dollar goes to Cheney and his buddies through overpricing but thats another story.

[zack1234]

So you dont benefit?

[Dragon]

It wasn't over when the Germans attacked Pearl Harbor, nor does this look to be over any time soon.

[MrRiplEy[H]]

It wasn't over when the Germans attacked Pearl Harbor, nor does this look to be over any time soon.

Germans of the rising sun. And then you nooked Berlin, which is why soviets built an anti-radiation wall.

[GScholz]

Time for another Pearl Harbor... Where's that CHICOM CV?

[wpeters]

My thoughts on the matter.

1 This is a Chance to show FACE(which is there pride)

2 They would be fools to try to take Japan.  There is nothing there for them in the strategic sense of the word.

3 They depend to much on the western world to run there economy.

4 The chinese army as a whole is very effective when fighting by the book, but suck when it comes to commanders taking the charge and pressing a attack without first checking in the General.

5 This is just a act of them being the bully.   They are acting big and tough, but they will be fools if they actually believe  it.   They feel like western society owes them. 

6  As long as there economy is growing there is nothing to worry about, It is only when it stops growing that we need to start to worry. They will relieze they do not have a endless supply of money and will really become ugly.. I could see them attacking Russia before Japan.  Russia offer far to many resource in Siberia for them to ignore.

[Butcher]

My thoughts on the matter.
4 The chinese army as a whole is very effective when fighting by the book, but suck when it comes to commanders taking the charge and pressing a attack without first checking in the General.

5 This is just a act of them being the bully.   They are acting big and tough, but they will be fools if they actually believe  it.   They feel like western society owes them. 

Actually this is incorrect, Chinese Army doctrine allows its commanders to make decisions on the go, not requiring to go up the chain of command - far different then many nations which allow them to be a better in the combat role then one would think. The biggest problem they have is mobiltiy,
while they do have impressive new toys, they still lack basic tools like GPS in their fighting equipment. In the Gulf war what helped us was having FF's on everything, to avoid friendly fire and still we suffered some friendly fire accidents - something the Japanese have on just about every piece of equipment and the Chinese do not. What this means if a Chinese naval ship decides to move in on its own and its not identified it can be blown out the water on accident - which is most likely will happen and blame the Japanese.

Secondly, its not them being bullies - this has been going on for over 40 years now. Chinese Taipei, Taiwan, South Kroea, Japan have always shown they improved over 100% - the Philippines is coming along but not good as the rest. China is basically showing its hand in a growing economic and political sense as it hasn't done before.

Problem is 20 years ago China would have absolutely no chance in showing its hand like this, now with the economic strength and its military being upgraded - they are coming out to play with the rest of the world to show its power.

Either way it can be bad news for Asia - unfortunately I don't know what is going to stop the big red machine.

[Tank-Ace]

Honestly, the only thing short of a war that will stop them, is if everyone (or at least the other major economic powers) stop trading with her. They don't supply anything that can't be found elsewhere, there's nothing standing in the way but greed.


Though I do feel like China is getting a bit big for its britches. They're getting there, certainly, but they're not there yet.

[Ack-Ack]

"Martial"? Lol they have avoided every fight since 1945 and spend a lousy 1% of their GNP on defense, "we spend about 5%", so exactly how are they "martial"?

Japan has been hamstrung by their constitution that we imposed on them after the war that limits how much they can spend on their military and how their military can be used.

ack-ack

[Rich46yo]

Japan has been hamstrung by their constitution that we imposed on them after the war that limits how much they can spend on their military and how their military can be used.

ack-ack

Which could be changed with a flick of the pen for about 5 decades now. But why do that when you have other dummies who will spend the $$ to protect you?

[GScholz]

Which could be changed with a flick of the pen...

Not quite. The red tape required for a constitutional amendment in Japan is substantial. It requires at least a two-thirds majority in both houses of the Diet, and then a majority vote in a public referendum. No wonder their constitution has never been amended since its enactment in 1947.

[Rich46yo]

Not quite. The red tape required for a constitutional amendment in Japan is substantial. It requires at least a two-thirds majority in both houses of the Diet, and then a majority vote in a public referendum. No wonder their constitution has never been amended since its enactment in 1947.

They havnt amended it because the Yank tax payer has been paying to protect them. Remove that and i cant help but think their two houses, and their public, would find a way to see the light.

I cant help but laugh when I see citizens from other Democracies make comments on the internet about how they would like to see America taken down a notch or two in the Pacific. They really have no idea what they would be dealing with if there was a dominant China in Asia.

[zack1234]

European countries always have a lot to say about the USA

A good majority of them would be using horse and carts if it were not for the colonials

Churchill was awesome

[Gemini]

zack1234 wees sitting down

it is known 

[Plawranc]

The Chinese and the Russians since their move to the free market have become two of the most resource and economically rich nations on the planet alongside the US. With all the money coming in they can afford to expand their military's. In a decade or so the USA will no longer be the dominant military force on the planet.