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Offline Vraciu

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Why not a Korean War Arena?
« on: November 26, 2013, 12:44:34 PM »
Kids nowadays think props are for boats. Why not Mig Alley?  86, 15, Pony, Yak, Sea Fury/Tempest, Sea Fire, Hawg, etc....  That could drive interest more than EW and MW.
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Re: Why not a Korean War Arena?
« Reply #1 on: November 26, 2013, 01:21:57 PM »
Because it will look like the WWI arena that every one though would be good to have.

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Re: Why not a Korean War Arena?
« Reply #2 on: November 26, 2013, 01:24:48 PM »
Haven't even been here a month and seeing your posts already make me  :bhead


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Re: Why not a Korean War Arena?
« Reply #3 on: November 26, 2013, 01:46:44 PM »
Haven't even been here a month and seeing your posts already make me  :bhead


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First of all, I was here in 2008.  If you have only been here a month and don't like what I write then I must presume you are stupid or closed minded.   I am articulate at worst and easy to read.  I write well, punctuate, and know how to spell.  If you can't handle that well...   ----->  There is a solution to my posting if you don't like it.  <S>

Second, old ideas are not necessarily bad ones.  This game is dying.  I did this slog march with WBs.  We are repeating that history here...

EW and MW are bad ideas.   KW might be a better option.   Bottom line is there are too many arenas for too few players.  Time to dial it back and shake it up around here.
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Re: Why not a Korean War Arena?
« Reply #4 on: November 26, 2013, 01:53:36 PM »
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Korea and later Viet Nam don't fit into either category. They weren't even worldwide. How about a Cold War arena?
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Re: Why not a Korean War Arena?
« Reply #5 on: November 26, 2013, 01:55:40 PM »
Korea and later Viet Nam don't fit into either category. They weren't even worldwide. How about a Cold War arena?

I am open to ideas.  We have too many arenas for the player base.  Collapse and diversify.  See what happens.
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Re: Why not a Korean War Arena?
« Reply #6 on: November 26, 2013, 02:01:54 PM »
No, Korea is a bad idea.  It has highly imbalanced units, few famous units and to "Kids nowadays think props are for boats." the F-86 and MiG-15 are just as old news as the SPAD VII and DR.1.  Going to things like the F-22, Eurofighter Typhoon and Su-37 would be very expensive due to avionic and missile modeling, but it might bring in some new players.

It would also cause many, perhaps most, of the existing customers to leave.
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Re: Why not a Korean War Arena?
« Reply #7 on: November 26, 2013, 02:04:45 PM »
Well, it beats an empty EW MW.
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Re: Why not a Korean War Arena?
« Reply #8 on: November 26, 2013, 02:47:08 PM »
     Been here for 3 years and apparently has learned very little.
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Re: Why not a Korean War Arena?
« Reply #9 on: November 26, 2013, 07:24:32 PM »
Because it will look like the WWI arena that every one though would be good to have.

Yes.

That's how it was in Air Warrior, which had a WWI arena and a Korean War arena.  No one used them.

Korean War jet fights were glacial compared to WWII because it took so long for a jet to do a 360 compared to a WWII fighter and because most of the dogfight had the two planes 1000 yards or more apart.  People did not fly prop planes in an arena with Mig 15's and F-86's -- they go in the other arena for that.  So, it was an arena with, at best, a few people in it engaging in glacial jet fights.

WWI has the problem that the upper wing gets in the way of your forward-up view, which is hugely annoying in dogfight pursuit.  WWII planes are just more fun to fight in.  So again, that arena had no or only a few people in it.

WWI and Korean War sounds appealing to folks who didn't experience them in Air Warrior, but they aren't much fun compared to WWII.

WWII is the golden age of air combat, where the planes were slow enough to make close-in fights possible and 360's possible in short times, but were advanced enough to have good visibility and performance good enough for vertical maneuvering.

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Re: Why not a Korean War Arena?
« Reply #10 on: November 26, 2013, 07:41:28 PM »
Jetweek in the AVA the week of December 13. its as close as you're gonna get. both prop planes and jets. 262's sub for mig 15's and f86's. its quite an exciting week. jets are free, no perks.

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Re: Why not a Korean War Arena?
« Reply #11 on: November 26, 2013, 07:43:09 PM »
Korea and later Viet Nam don't fit into either category. They weren't even worldwide. How about a Cold War arena?
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Re: Why not a Korean War Arena?
« Reply #12 on: November 26, 2013, 07:47:28 PM »
Yes.

That's how it was in Air Warrior, which had a WWI arena and a Korean War arena.  No one used them.

Korean War jet fights were glacial compared to WWII because it took so long for a jet to do a 360 compared to a WWII fighter and because most of the dogfight had the two planes 1000 yards or more apart.  People did not fly prop planes in an arena with Mig 15's and F-86's -- they go in the other arena for that.  So, it was an arena with, at best, a few people in it engaging in glacial jet fights.

WWI has the problem that the upper wing gets in the way of your forward-up view, which is hugely annoying in dogfight pursuit.  WWII planes are just more fun to fight in.  So again, that arena had no or only a few people in it.

WWI and Korean War sounds appealing to folks who didn't experience them in Air Warrior, but they aren't much fun compared to WWII.

WWII is the golden age of air combat, where the planes were slow enough to make close-in fights possible and 360's possible in short times, but were advanced enough to have good visibility and performance good enough for vertical maneuvering.

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Re: Why not a Korean War Arena?
« Reply #13 on: November 26, 2013, 07:48:53 PM »
No.

But you could start a NEW game called MIG Alley. 

Just learn to write COAD, get about 500K$, work for about 2 years with a couple of gaming COADers that want to get paid AND get an equity position for their efforts.

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Re: Why not a Korean War Arena?
« Reply #14 on: November 26, 2013, 08:30:47 PM »
First of all, I was here in 2008.  If you have only been here a month and don't like what I write then I must presume you are stupid or closed minded.   I am articulate at worst and easy to read.  I write well, punctuate, and know how to spell.  If you can't handle that well...   ----->  There is a solution to my posting if you don't like it.  <S>

Second, old ideas are not necessarily bad ones.  This game is dying.  I did this slog march with WBs.  We are repeating that history here...

EW and MW are bad ideas.   KW might be a better option.   Bottom line is there are too many arenas for too few players.  Time to dial it back and shake it up around here.

You really need to read what he said....he has not been here for a month...not I have only been here a month....this is a WW2 game. This has been requested for many many years. If you want a KW game, make one. HT made as WW1 arena and look what it's doing..........zero.

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