Lack of fights.

[Latrobe]

I don't even bother if I win or lose. I accept 2 or 3 on ones but 6 - 7 - 8 on 1? That's the usual result as hordes show up, not fun.

But! 6-8v1's is when things start getting really fun! Dodging a shot and forcing an overshoot every 2 seconds, watching those 2 or 3 guys pull to hard trying to end the fight and auger into the ground, putting rounds into every single one of them while they desperately try to kill you... it's by far one of the most exciting kind of fights I ever get into! I don't find 1v1's all that exciting anymore. They're fun to have but it's a much bigger adrenaline rush (for me) to be twisting and turning in the middle of several enemy cons, shooting at everyone who overshoots, making them all miss, and killing as many as I can.

 

[gpwurzel]

Dont get me wrong, if I find a 1 v 1 in the MA, that works for me, heck, 2, 3, 4 v 1 works for me. I pretty much expect to die every time I up, the occasional successful sortie where I actually land is always a nice surprise.
The reliance on Dikta Boelcke as justification for a horde makes a certain amount of sense - that said, I disagree with it - based on this being a game and no real death being the outcome.
Agree with the unlimited planes/ord comment - with that said, that is how the game is set up - and that is what eny attempts to address (not saying anything further on eny)

The biggest barrier to replacing the "Horde" is, in my limited experience (not a psychologist or anything, I'm a computer nerd by trade) is human behavior - there is safety in a large group of players, and yes, given the learning curve for this game - makes sense people choose to fly in it.

Apologies if this sounds like I"m being elitist or whatever you wish to describe me as - its not meant to, and me being elitist is about the furthest thing from the truth there is, my signature details what I think about my skillset ingame.

Wurz

[Zed]

I don't know what all the complaining is for.  I never have trouble finding a dog-fight.  There again, I tend to fly towards enemy bases alone.  It's bad for your score but fun.   Occasionally, I live through it, too...

[LCADolby]

Rooks and Bish were hogging all the darbar yesterday. It forced me to and a few others to swap sides to get some action.
It's such a shame that AcesHigh contains scumbags like DESO that have to hurl abuse to players that switch to find some fun.

[Latrobe]

I've never caught any flak for switching sides except maybe once when I first started doing it more frequently. I'm mostly greeted with a "Hello! Welcome back to the dark side!"  I think everyone pretty much expects me to switch sides by now.

[GhostCDB]

I like women. 

[LCADolby]

I like women. 

If you have to remind people... well, y'know

[GhostCDB]

If you have to remind people... well, y'know

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You hear Phil Robinson, I agree 100% with him. 

[jeep00]

But! 6-8v1's is when things start getting really fun! Dodging a shot and forcing an overshoot every 2 seconds, watching those 2 or 3 guys pull to hard trying to end the fight and auger into the ground, putting rounds into every single one of them while they desperately try to kill you... it's by far one of the most exciting kind of fights I ever get into! I don't find 1v1's all that exciting anymore. They're fun to have but it's a much bigger adrenaline rush (for me) to be twisting and turning in the middle of several enemy cons, shooting at everyone who overshoots, making them all miss, and killing as many as I can.

 

This
 

[JOACH1M]

People who kill the hangars are actually good players- they protect you from being vulched.
What stops you from taking off from another field nearby? Seems like a pseudo problem for me. Finding a fight in the game is not a problem for me 99% of the time, my definition of a fight could be different though. There are usually over 120 players when I log, maybe that is why. Isn`t dueling arena for "real" 1v1 fights?

yeah doesn really work on big maps. And the point to fly 20 minutes to just either watch the fight die because they want to go capture a different base or to just get abosolutly picked to death.

[Vortex]

This issue while on the surface looks like a good idea, but the other hand it brings to mind WWI arena. Furballing is along the lines of picking a horde. While it may be fun for a bit it soon gets boring as there really isn't much in the way of a challenge. You blow in and out as many times as you can getting as many kills as you can until some one shows up with more E and slips past your SA and picks you. Rinse and repeat.

I'm more after all around better game play. I like the "war" aspect of the game but as it sits now the only way to defend is to spend the night flying around porking ord, or trying to fight 5 to 1 odds. I'd rather see 20-30 guys fighting over a base, while a sector or two away another 20-30 guys are fighting over another base, while on the other front the same thing is happening. Thats 180 guys in the arena with each team having the option of 4 different fights to join. More people, more fights. Doesn't that sound like more fun from both the attack AND defend point of view?

I certainly wouldn't suggest to hinder your fun Fugitive...or anyone's for that matter. But that's somewhat at the root of what I was suggesting. What you suggest is your idea of "fun", and although I am not adverse to it at all, I'm a tad dubious that it is obtainable. But I certainly do not want to hinder folks trying to get there.

In the end though, I like to furball, that's it. I'm not a fan of strat, buffing, GV's, taking bases, losing bases, winning wars, losing wars, etc. I just want to log in and get in some air combat, that's all. I'm not sure how many folks are of similar mindset, but I would think that some are, at the very least, of that mindset sometimes. And that's all that is needed.

Now what is rather ironic is that AH, a game built originally as an air combat sim, has evolved in such a way as to have that air combat aspect of its gameplay to be rather more elusive than the other aspects of its gameplay that have evolved since its inception (GV's, Strat, Buffing). GV'rs can always find GV stuff, buffers can always milk run or do strat stuff, but those looking for a simple furball and air combat can have a tougher time finding that.

Hence my original suggestion. A simple, small, 3-base area setup in the MA, on each map, that is furball friendly. No VH (or way for GV's to get there), no ord, not capturable, etc. Tuck it out of the way too so as not to interfere with the grander plans that you and others are talking about here. If I'm wrong, and it never gets used, it hurts nothing.

[McShark]

But! 6-8v1's is when things start getting really fun! Dodging a shot and forcing an overshoot every 2 seconds, watching those 2 or 3 guys pull to hard trying to end the fight and auger into the ground, putting rounds into every single one of them while they desperately try to kill you... it's by far one of the most exciting kind of fights I ever get into! I don't find 1v1's all that exciting anymore. They're fun to have but it's a much bigger adrenaline rush (for me) to be twisting and turning in the middle of several enemy cons, shooting at everyone who overshoots, making them all miss, and killing as many as I can.

 

Might be time to enlighten us of your blessings     

As much as I understand the fun to be capable to knock anyone at any odds out of the sky, I seriously doubt that more than 5 % of the active pilots are capable of doing so. Otherwise I do not understand the growing numbers of threads of this kind.

To be honest, landing with  you, 2 k out of an enemy base, on the beach, to wait for any uppers and when they show to shoot them down was the best fun I had in a while, Latrobe. It also is completely insane and maybe thats the only way to look at this game.   

[Latrobe]

Might be time to enlighten us of your blessings     

As much as I understand the fun to be capable to knock anyone at any odds out of the sky, I seriously doubt that more than 5 % of the active pilots are capable of doing so. Otherwise I do not understand the growing numbers of threads of this kind.

To be honest, landing with  you, 2 k out of an enemy base, on the beach, to wait for any uppers and when they show to shoot them down was the best fun I had in a while, Latrobe. It also is completely insane and maybe thats the only way to look at this game.   

Anyone can accomplish anything, you just have to want it enough and put forth the effort. You can't accomplish the hard things by putting forth minimum effort. The hard things are hard to accomplish (I know, that logic is baffling!  ), but with enough practice and wanting it badly enough anyone can accomplish it. People who think that winning a 3v1 fight is impossible will never win a 3v1 fight no matter how hard they try because they've already gotten a mindset that they will lose. When I go into a fight, be it 1v1, 3v1, or 5v1 I don't think "How can I escape this?" I think of ways to kill them all!  I'm not joking when I tell people that every fight is winnable, EVERY FIGHT! When I joined this game I set a goal that I would reach a skill level that would allow me to win any fight regardless of the odds or situation (I know, I set the bar wickedly high for myself  ). That goal most people would say is impossible. In fact some people HAVE told me that. I don't care, I'm still going to achieve it. It's a very difficult goal to achieve and will take me many years to achieve but I always liked to test my limits and push beyond them. I've been playing for over 7 years now and I've gone from a 2 week noob to an average pilot. If I can make this kind of progress then anyone else can too. They just have to want it badly enough and put forth the time to practice and get to that level.


And landing off their base wasn't COMPLETELY insane, we saved on some gas! 

[Squire]

Its simply a matter of timing. In a come as you are arena game you can't expect to find the perfect balance at any particular time. Just have some patience and the fights will come as they always do.

[bustr]

If Hitech had bit the bullet years ago and created a forum called "Furballers Corner". We would have stopped having these chest thumping, angst ridden, insult slopping, I'm better than you are by insinuation because I is a "flitter pioleet" posts. The general forum and others would have been feature wishes, Q&A, game information, game strategy, and historical anecdotal forums.

But, then eventually Skuzzy would have had to evict all of you like he had to evict the old timers from the O'Club forum to start their own vulgar loose lips forum at Flame Warriors.

You gents only have this game to tell everyone how wonderful you are, if the 80-90% who can't acm, won't fight, or only want to GV, tool shed, hoard, or HO and run away, keep paying the bills so you can insult them. If they all left, there are not enough of you to keep the doors open. That means you are also insulting Hitech because his business strategy allows those "you" deem unworthy to play in "your" game. What game does that really sell to new customers who the majority will be casual players?

This is the best game of it's kind and "ALL Are Welcome".

Or

This is our game and you aren't welcome because you drool by OUR standards!!

Hitech, please create a "Furballers Corner" forum so these questionable gentlemen can insult the paying customers off in their own tiny corner, and Skuzzy has some place to evict their insult fests to out of the General forum. Then the casual observer thinking about trying the game will get a better perspective about the game's demographics.

I have run into people on the internet who didn't try our game after first reading our forums. The rule of mouth for spreading good and negative PR works very well visa the Telephone Game Effect. Bad stories get worse the father they travel from the origin.

•Almost half of shoppers say they avoid a particular store because of someone else's negative experience.
•31% of customers tell one or more friends about a problem they experienced with a store. But on average, shoppers tell four people about their negative shopping experience.
•Negative word of mouth influences future patronage up to five times more than the person who experienced the problem first-hand due to the Telephone Game Effect, meaning that the original problem description is continually embellished as it passes from person to person.

If HTC is using these forums as a Marketing tool. You gentlemen are slowly strangling the goose with your insulting chest thumping towards the 80-90% of regular players you accuse of killing the game because they won't play it the way you want them to.