Kamikazes

[FLOOB]

Yeah kamikaze planes are long overdue. Aces High is a WWII flight sim after all, kamikaze was a significant part of the air war.

[Lucifer]

1)-It has a different name for the Finnish, but thats the same shape, thats ofc what i meant.
2)Finnish symbol and German one are clockwize (so had wwii Finnish/German planes), even if, and i said it, they are different, mainly by colors, and ofc for what they mean.

Yeah I know it. Evidently you don't know the Finnish Hakaristi ("hookcross") or vääräpää ("crooked head")
is not the same as the counterclockwise swastika used to represent the Nazi party. You fail.

Wrong it is not the same as the nazi swastika, the same as the star of the Soviet Union was not same as the Star of David.
You fail again.

[Arlo]

A protracted debate about swastikas is not healthy for this kamikaze thread.

[Shifty]

A protracted debate about swastikas is not healthy for this kamikaze thread.

Quite true. It is suicidal for a thread to take a nose dive like this.

[artik]

<sarcasm> I say yes for Kamikazes... if we have a perk free A-Bomb</sarcasm>

On a serious note, there are several types of weapons/methods that just aren't good for MA. However they can be very valuable for SEA for Snapshots/Scenarios/SEC/TDWII/FSO.

For example, if you run the Okinawa battle on SEA, you need Kamikazes... because they were there and they were an integrated part. But at MA it just wouldn't work well.

[danny76]

The suicide planes would be Japanese only and only used for ships.

Why only Japansese? Germans used a form of suicide planes on the Eastern front "Selbstopfereinsätze" and destroyed a couple of bridges held by Russian forces, and the Sonderkommando Elba flew suicide missions against allied bomber formations. Bulgarian Dimitar Spisarevski deliberately crashed his aircraft into an American bomber and destroying both planes

[danny76]

Oh, it would also be controversial and possibly insulting to American and Japanese players.

Cobblers, no more insulting than recreating people being blown apart by 30mm cannon shells or spiralling down to a fiery demise in a burning B17, or even the in game recreation of dropping 1000's of pounds of ordnance onto little quaint towns 

[Lucifer]

Thats exactly what i thought.

Quite true. It is suicidal for a thread to take a nose dive like this.

[Lucifer]

I cant agree more.

Cobblers, no more insulting than recreating people being blown apart by 30mm cannon shells or spiralling down to a fiery demise in a burning B17, or even the in game recreation of dropping 1000's of pounds of ordnance onto little quaint towns 

[danny76]

I cant agree more.

Oh 

[matt]

+ 1 If you dont get perks

[Lucifer]

Adding a specific bomb arming system for the few concerned Japanese planes would be enough : the bomb would be activated when plane spawns.
The bomb couldnt be dropped, but would be armed when plane spawns for the attack. No bombing points would be granted :
with such rules, this tactic wouldnt be used too often,
only when situation is critical...

[Wiley]

Adding a specific bomb arming system for the few concerned Japanese planes would be enough : the bomb would be activated when plane spawns.
The bomb couldnt be dropped, but would be armed when plane spawns for the attack. No bombing points would be granted :
with such rules, this tactic wouldnt be used too often,
only when situation is critical...

Wrong.  People who would use it are the same types as those who suicide to take out radar/ords.  They're concerned with killing the target, not score.  Not a fan of it for the MA.  People don't need more excuses to be lame.

Wiley.

[Zoney]

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Just remember we got far "worst" units represented ingame : ie the "Das Reich" : we got their vehicles/skins/markings ingame, though their actions during wwii are -by far- worst than Kamikazes.

It's just my opinion.

Exactly what did the Luftwaffe do that makes them far worse units?  Maybe a little reading about the Luftwaffe might be in order.  They flew with honor.  They like everyone in Germany were under orders to fight in a war, it did not matter if they agreed with their orders, they followed them.  There are countless stories of fighters attacking bombers and the fighter pilots did their best not to kill crew members, damaging planes carefully to allow the crews to bail out.  Attacking the reputation of the Luftwaffe to somehow have your wish become more valid does not work sir.

-1 on your wish.

Wrong.  People who would use it are the same types as those who suicide to take out radar/ords.  They're concerned with killing the target, not score.  Not a fan of it for the MA.  People don't need more excuses to be lame.

Wiley.

And that is the reason I disagree with your wish.

[Someguy63]

Exactly what did the Luftwaffe do that makes them far worse units?  Maybe a little reading about the Luftwaffe might be in order.  They flew with honor.  They like everyone in Germany were under orders to fight in a war, it did not matter if they agreed with their orders, they followed them.  There are countless stories of fighters attacking bombers and the fighter pilots did their best not to kill crew members, damaging planes carefully to allow the crews to bail out.  Attacking the reputation of the Luftwaffe to somehow have your wish become more valid does not work sir.

-1 on your wish.

And that is the reason I disagree with your wish.

I don't think he was talking about the Luftwaffe, but more of the tanks we have with SS skins. But yet I still have to agree that attacking war atrocities by the SS shouldn't and can't be used to validate the wish.