30mm is buggy

[Skyyr]

Since we have an all or nothing damage mode, what you just said it's entirely possible. You're doing damage; to claim otherwise it's just idiotic. You're just not killing parts, which is another thing entirely.

This is not correct. Tanks are modeled like this, aircraft are not. Each part has a certain threshold of damage it can absorb before it fails. This is why you can have someone hit an opponents left wing 3x with 20mm, and have no apparent damage. One further ping from a .303 burst would be enough to take it off and award the kill to the player that landed the 3x 20mm hits with no apparent damage.

[FBKampfer]

This is not correct. Tanks are modeled like this, aircraft are not. Each part has a certain threshold of damage it can absorb before it fails. This is why you can have someone hit an opponents left wing 3x with 20mm, and have no apparent damage. One further ping from a .303 burst would be enough to take it off and award the kill to the player that landed the 3x 20mm hits with no apparent damage.

Reread what I posted, as this is exactly what I said.

Hes doing damage, he just hasn't destroyed any parts. Or rather, any visible parts. He may perhaps have destroyed guns, or gear or something.

[glzsqd]

B26 was actually known to be quite fragile

[Zimme83]

Have tested in offline mode and the bigger bombers can absorb a 30mm hit without falling apart and sometimes it looks like they do no damage. (nothing is falling of the bomber) But it looks more like u have to hit them with more than one 30mm to kill them. The "bug" is simply a hit that is not enough to make the bomber go down.

[icepac]

A pilot's .45 will do damage, as evidenced by the fact that you can get assists. It will not, however, get you a kill.

I have plenty of kills of previously undamaged planes, jeeps, and acks with the .45

[FBKampfer]

I have plenty of kills of previously undamaged planes, jeeps, and acks with the .45

I think you understand the point I was making. And I will thank you to refrain from using a serious thread as an opportunity to toot your own horn. You do that enough elsewhere that it already wears thin.

[Lucifer]

The bug is not that the Bomber isnt "going down", it is that the B26 engine was un-damaged (u really tyhink if it had been, no fuel/oil leak would have occured with a 30 mm direct hit?) Anyhow, i see where this is going, i just hope HTC have a look and confirm (or not) what i suspect.

Have tested in offline mode and the bigger bombers can absorb a 30mm hit without falling apart and sometimes it looks like they do no damage. (nothing is falling of the bomber) But it looks more like u have to hit them with more than one 30mm to kill them. The "bug" is simply a hit that is not enough to make the bomber go down.

[Zimme83]

Undamaged? Saw a fuel leak, a gear and an aileron fall of...

[FBKampfer]

The bug is not that the Bomber isnt "going down", it is that the B26 engine was un-damaged (u really tyhink if it had been, no fuel/oil leak would have occured with a 30 mm direct hit?) Anyhow, i see where this is going, i just hope HTC have a look and confirm (or not) what i suspect.

I believe that you weren't actually hitting the engine. You are aware that it doesn't extend all the way through the wing, right?

[Skyyr]

Reread what I posted

I did, and it's not called an "all or nothing damage model." That is the system the tanks have in place. It's an accumulative damage model with a failure threshold.

[FBKampfer]

I did, and it's not called an "all or nothing damage model." That is the system the tanks have in place. It's an accumulative damage model with a failure threshold.

I mean that a part is either destroyed, or it is not. You can not shoot off half a flap, or tear off a chunk of wing. Things do not become less effective with damage taken, and do not appear damaged until they are destroyed.

All, or nothing.

[icepac]

I think you understand the point I was making. And I will thank you to refrain from using a serious thread as an opportunity to toot your own horn. You do that enough elsewhere that it already wears thin.

Not at all..........anybody can get kills with the pistol yet you claim it is not possible.

I was correcting your incorrect statement.



Here is a film of six 30mm landed HO on a KI84 which then flies away.

FbKampfer smells like Dolby.

[Lucifer]

If u see in film what others like me dont (at first 30mm hit on engine of plane 1, there is no aileron loss/leak/etc...) then plz give me ur dope provider name ! 

Undamaged? Saw a fuel leak, a gear and an aileron fall of...

[guncrasher]

I demand to be compensated for all the times I have gotten wings shot off by the non-damaging 30mm.


semp

[Skuzzy]

Not at all..........anybody can get kills with the pistol yet you claim it is not possible.

I was correcting your incorrect statement.

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Here is a film of six 30mm landed HO on a KI84 which then flies away.

FbKampfer smells like Dolby.

The KI84 in that film did not fly away.  It also does not show any problem with the 30mm round.