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Re: Is Aces High II soon to become just a memory of good times past?
« Reply #165 on: June 26, 2014, 08:38:19 PM »
It is funny, but it seems like everyone gets the graph completely wrong.

A "steep learning curve" shouldn't result in greater skill in less time.  So, the axes really should be swapped.

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Re: Is Aces High II soon to become just a memory of good times past?
« Reply #166 on: June 27, 2014, 03:47:07 AM »
i see a treacherous cliff littered with death, that once scaled, leaves one in a mass grave, only to plateau and be scraped up by the ever present bulldozer.

sounds about right.

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Re: Is Aces High II soon to become just a memory of good times past?
« Reply #167 on: June 27, 2014, 10:17:53 AM »
i see a treacherous cliff littered with death, that once scaled, leaves one in a mass grave, only to plateau and be scraped up by the ever present bulldozer.

sounds about right.

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Re: Is Aces High II soon to become just a memory of good times past?
« Reply #168 on: June 27, 2014, 02:48:43 PM »
Decline in numbers started in '08, as best I can recall (recession....I can understand how folks have to make choices....since then, many alternatives to paid subscription games have popped up) That being said, any number of long-timers I know who have moved on, mostly bemoan the "same ole-same ole"....NOT of the graphics, but of gameplay. I'm not sure how you can coad out dweeby behavior
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Re: Is Aces High II soon to become just a memory of good times past?
« Reply #169 on: June 27, 2014, 03:03:53 PM »
That being said, any number of long-timers I know who have moved on, mostly bemoan the "same ole-same ole"....NOT of the graphics, but of gameplay. I'm not sure how you can coad out dweeby behavior


"Same ole, same ole" happens to almost any player in any game, totally regardless of "dweeby behaviour". At some point you have seen it all, and often with less enthusiasm and less excitement you are much more prone to notice the "bad things" as well. In fact, the personal concept of "dweebery" might change a lot as a player progresses. He may perceive and speak out against things he had done himself with great pleasure years before... I have noticed that quite a lot of times.

When I joined AH, I was totally excited by the fact I was able to fly WW2 planes against other fighters alone. I had such a great time and so much more exciting fights... I still have some of that early films of mine, and actually those exciting and palm sweating dogfights were often pretty sucky ones... Bad control, full of HO's, 6k extending and so on.
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Re: Is Aces High II soon to become just a memory of good times past?
« Reply #170 on: June 27, 2014, 08:52:47 PM »
Decline in numbers started in '08, as best I can recall (recession....I can understand how folks have to make choices....since then, many alternatives to paid subscription games have popped up) That being said, any number of long-timers I know who have moved on, mostly bemoan the "same ole-same ole"....NOT of the graphics, but of gameplay. I'm not sure how you can coad out dweeby behavior

I know I don't really count as a "long timer" having only started this game in 2004 or so and only having gotten into Air Warrior for AWIII...  But the "same ole-same ole", for me at least, was self-inflicted.  The second that I started trying to give everyone a good fight and stop being part of what I at the time perceived to be a problem (head-ons, ganging, vulching, etc.) was the second I backed myself into a corner where there was really only one element of the game left to me, and it very quickly got stale. 
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Re: Is Aces High II soon to become just a memory of good times past?
« Reply #171 on: June 27, 2014, 09:08:30 PM »
I know I don't really count as a "long timer" having only started this game in 2004 or so and only having gotten into Air Warrior for AWIII...  But the "same ole-same ole", for me at least, was self-inflicted.  The second that I started trying to give everyone a good fight and stop being part of what I at the time perceived to be a problem (head-ons, ganging, vulching, etc.) was the second I backed myself into a corner where there was really only one element of the game left to me, and it very quickly got stale. 

Hey Vudak! Long time brother!  <S>

I agree that the 'same old..." is a self inflicted state. Personally I still fly buff runs to see how high a milk run point total I can get. I still jump ina GV now and then to see if I can get a shot off on a tank before I get killed  :P

The game is what you make of it. I think too many get stuck in  that "same old..." thing and that is the biggest cause of people leaving.

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Re: Is Aces High II soon to become just a memory of good times past?
« Reply #172 on: June 28, 2014, 03:07:36 AM »
Umm...... I ....err think..... (that's where this post of mine goes wrong)... Folks leave sometimes because they miss the "old" days.......   :old:

I am not leaving, but I sure miss the time when 50 caliber rounds killed field guns and town buildings, without using up half of my ammo.

I miss when there were @500 players on and over half of them weren't hovering over my head trying to capture one field for 45 minutes.

I miss taking 4 nik2s, and a goon and capturing a field in about 10 minutes.

So, is Aces High a memory of good times past?  I would say yes.  fixed

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Re: Is Aces High II soon to become just a memory of good times past?
« Reply #173 on: June 28, 2014, 03:36:33 AM »

"Same ole, same ole" happens to almost any player in any game, totally regardless of "dweeby behaviour". At some point you have seen it all, and often with less enthusiasm and less excitement you are much more prone to notice the "bad things" as well. In fact, the personal concept of "dweebery" might change a lot as a player progresses. He may perceive and speak out against things he had done himself with great pleasure years before... I have noticed that quite a lot of times.

When I joined AH, I was totally excited by the fact I was able to fly WW2 planes against other fighters alone. I had such a great time and so much more exciting fights... I still have some of that early films of mine, and actually those exciting and palm sweating dogfights were often pretty sucky ones... Bad control, full of HO's, 6k extending and so on.


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Re: Is Aces High II soon to become just a memory of good times past?
« Reply #174 on: June 28, 2014, 08:41:55 AM »
So, is Aces High a memory of good times past?  I would say yes.  fixed

yes good ole AH,  AH II having to share the same fate when the AH III comes out some day...

Those memories... diving to a formation of buffs and killing them in one stroke of trigger and doing the same again and again, killing the entire town in 110, landing and bringing in the troops - base captured. Those were the happy happy days :)
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Re: Is Aces High II soon to become just a memory of good times past?
« Reply #175 on: June 28, 2014, 08:11:08 PM »
Is 20 v 5 fair? FFA matchmaking makes this situation possible. Just a fact.
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Nope...but neither is life in general. I fine it a lot of fun to fight outnumbered.


But if you are really concerned about it perhaps you should have an internal conversation with other members of your own squad who seem to...ahh...run with dah horde, set a on cap bases with no intention of capturing, and then proceed to vulch like its going out of style.  Or baring that...if they would drop the self-rightious posing and simply admit they do it just like everyone else it would be a great start.

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Re: Is Aces High II soon to become just a memory of good times past?
« Reply #176 on: June 29, 2014, 03:19:21 AM »
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Nope...but neither is life in general. I fine it a lot of fun to fight outnumbered.


But if you are really concerned about it perhaps you should have an internal conversation with other members of your own squad who seem to...ahh...run with dah horde, set a on cap bases with no intention of capturing, and then proceed to vulch like its going out of style.  Or baring that...if they would drop the self-rightious posing and simply admit they do it just like everyone else it would be a great start.


Games in general are fun... What other reason is there... A fun game is fair. A fair game is fun. Simple.

What makes it possible for the Muppets to do what you describe in the first place? It's not fair man.... we both agree.
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Re: Is Aces High II soon to become just a memory of good times past?
« Reply #177 on: June 29, 2014, 03:23:09 AM »
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Re: Is Aces High II soon to become just a memory of good times past?
« Reply #178 on: June 29, 2014, 03:26:12 AM »
Haven't flown in years!!  Sunbat has my CH gear and reduced to a laptop.  If I get a decent set up, I'll come back for sure.
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Re: Is Aces High II soon to become just a memory of good times past?
« Reply #179 on: June 29, 2014, 03:35:19 AM »
Decline in numbers started in '08, as best I can recall (recession....I can understand how folks have to make choices....since then, many alternatives to paid subscription games have popped up) That being said, any number of long-timers I know who have moved on, mostly bemoan the "same ole-same ole"....NOT of the graphics, but of gameplay. I'm not sure how you can coad out dweeby behavior


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