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Offline Muzzy

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Trakir
« on: July 29, 2014, 09:59:19 PM »
Been having trouble getting Trackir to work well for me. My biggest problem is that for the most part, my rear view is worse than what it is with the thumb stick. Is there any way to improve this? With preset views, I can optimize so I can see clearly behind me, but with Trak, more often than not all I see is the headrest. This is even true in bubble tops like the Mustang and P47. How do you guys deal with it?


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Re: Trakir
« Reply #1 on: July 29, 2014, 10:34:07 PM »
Move your head away from the headrest, then move it to one side, then turn it to look back. Scale the axis as needed to limit the required head movement.

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Re: Trakir
« Reply #2 on: July 30, 2014, 08:59:35 AM »
Do you do this with the forward/back axis enabled or off?


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Re: Trakir
« Reply #3 on: July 30, 2014, 02:35:43 PM »
Do you do this with the forward/back axis enabled or off?

In order to move your head forward or back you'll need the forward/back axis on.

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Re: Trakir
« Reply #4 on: July 30, 2014, 04:17:01 PM »
Bustr sets his up this way to get a good "6" view.

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,311822.msg4047939.html#msg4047939

and this is a write up I did on how to set up TrakIR

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,329017.0.html

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Re: Trakir
« Reply #5 on: July 30, 2014, 04:25:31 PM »
Muzzy something you are doing wrong.  Trackir can give you the same view to the rear as a hat toggle.

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Re: Trakir
« Reply #6 on: July 30, 2014, 04:48:28 PM »



           The axis you want to deal with for a better 6 view is the "X" axis and the "YAW" axis.

               first set a 180 degree "Limit" on your yaw axis. then adjust your scaling to fit your comfort. The limit setting will give a perfect 6 view no matter how far you turn your head.
               Next set the scaling for the "X" axis (side to side head movement).  mine is set that if I move my head 6 inches to left or right I get full pilot movement.

               this will allow you to turn your head a few degrees to get a dead 6 view, then move your head sideways a few inches in the same direction to look around the headrest.
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Re: Trakir
« Reply #7 on: July 30, 2014, 04:59:15 PM »
Not sure how to attach a file on the BBS but I will gladly send you my profile.  If using TrackIR 5, be sure the camera views the reflectors as a triangle (you can see this in the "camera view" in the TrackIR application.  I found for my gear and monitor setup that I must tilt my headset lower on my forehead or the camera will lose view of the reflectors.
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Re: Trakir
« Reply #8 on: July 30, 2014, 05:10:16 PM »
You can also reduce it to 2-axis mode which will then inherit your saved head positions from the HPS file.
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Re: Trakir
« Reply #9 on: July 31, 2014, 08:59:00 AM »
You can also reduce it to 2-axis mode which will then inherit your saved head positions from the HPS file.

I confess I thought I might be dumbing down the TrackIR.  I tried it, Bustr, using my current AH profile as a starting point, and making the changes you recommended in the other thread.  It works quite well and is a tribute to KISS.

Thanks for sharing the 2-axis approach.  I would have never occurred to me.

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Re: Trakir
« Reply #10 on: July 31, 2014, 09:15:23 AM »
You really just have to train your head/body what to do to get a good six view on some planes.  I had this issue at first with the 38, but now it's second nature and I get the same view I did with the view hat.

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Re: Trakir
« Reply #11 on: July 31, 2014, 09:25:23 AM »
Interesting stuff. I keep promising myself that one day I shall try TrakIR. And rudder pedals. And a throttle quadrant. And a stick that costs more than $20...*sigh*
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Re: Trakir
« Reply #12 on: July 31, 2014, 11:02:36 AM »
Interesting stuff. I keep promising myself that one day I shall try TrakIR. And rudder pedals. And a throttle quadrant. And a stick that costs more than $20...*sigh*

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Re: Trakir
« Reply #13 on: July 31, 2014, 11:31:35 AM »
I always strongly suggest a lot of experiments in setting.  Just keep saving profiles under different revision numbers so you can back if needed.

On rear views I have the X axis flat in the middle for shooting then it goes near vertical so when I look back and lean around the head support it snaps to full out position.

I also use the "Speed" setting to slow down the extreme steep curves I use.  I have my speed set at .4 but as noted my curves are very, very steep.

I don't use "Roll" or the "Z". 

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Re: Trakir
« Reply #14 on: July 31, 2014, 07:38:17 PM »


Just to give you an idea of what I'm dealing with. The above is an approximation of my standard rear view using the hat switch. It's set by moving the view back away from the seat, and then raising the view as high in the cockpit as I can go.

With Trakir, all I can do is get a peek around the back frame, and that is far less optimal than the view I am used to. Worse than that, the views from the rear angle are unstable and I often find myself looking at the weirdest angles while someone shoots me down. I really like Trakir for just about everything, but I can't deal with not having that view of my six.


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