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Offline SirNuke

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Re: FM2 vs. BF-109f
« Reply #30 on: September 18, 2014, 02:32:54 PM »
the firing time of the 109 is much longer too
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Offline bangsbox

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Re: FM2 vs. BF-109f
« Reply #31 on: September 18, 2014, 03:18:22 PM »
FM2 ehhh...NOW the F4F is my cup of tea. The 2 extra .50s i think make up for it's lack of engine power.
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Offline Debrody

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Re: FM2 vs. BF-109f
« Reply #32 on: September 18, 2014, 05:50:04 PM »
Quote from: Karnak on September 18, 2014, 12:32:39 PM
In AH I'd suggest that the Ki-84-Ia and Spitfire LF.Mk VIII are at least as balanced as the Bf109F-4.  Probably more so to be honest.
The F-4 is from 1942, the Ki-84 and the Spitfire Mk. VIII are from '44. Considering this, the F-4 is a pretty damn good constuction.

The 109 F, but even more the Ki-84 handle just how i like a fighter plane to fly. The Spitfire series does not - they are better in the raw performance stats though.
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Offline GScholz

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Re: FM2 vs. BF-109f
« Reply #33 on: September 18, 2014, 06:28:07 PM »
Actually the 109F-4 is a 1941 aircraft. The first F-4s reached frontline units in June 1941. The first of the F-series is from 1940. Mölders and JG 51 flew the 109F-1 over England from early October 1940, so technically it even took part in the Battle of Britain. In its time it was the best fighter in the world by a significant margin.
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Re: FM2 vs. BF-109f
« Reply #34 on: September 18, 2014, 06:47:19 PM »
Btw, I assume the AH 109F-4 in a 1941 model with the derated engine of 1200 PS since it can only do 395 mph. In February 1942 the full power of 1350 PS was made available and the 109F-4 became a 410 mph fighter.
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Offline Karnak

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Re: FM2 vs. BF-109f
« Reply #35 on: September 18, 2014, 07:43:33 PM »
Spitfire VIII is a 1943 aircraft.

I will note that the Ki-84 seems to kick the Spit VIII's in the 6 whenever they are set opposite each other in the AvA.
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Offline Oldman731

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Re: FM2 vs. BF-109f
« Reply #36 on: September 18, 2014, 09:25:20 PM »
Quote from: Karnak on September 18, 2014, 07:43:33 PM
I will note that the Ki-84 seems to kick the Spit VIII's in the 6 whenever they are set opposite each other in the AvA.


Yup.  Some years ago there was an AvA setup pitting the Spit 8 against the Frank.  Two very good squadrons came into the arena most nights that week, switching sides each night.  The Frank came out on top every time.  Really, it didn't even seem close.

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Offline Debrody

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Re: FM2 vs. BF-109f
« Reply #37 on: September 19, 2014, 01:06:45 AM »
Quote from: Karnak on September 18, 2014, 07:43:33 PM
I will note that the Ki-84 seems to kick the Spit VIII's in the 6 whenever they are set opposite each other in the AvA.
Did not know about that. On paper, the Spitfire should perform better in many vs many (better guns, better handling at medium speeds).

Looks like there are some other factors i dont know about.
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