Author Topic: Iraq bought a bunch of havocs  (Read 2009 times)

Offline bozon

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 6037
Re: Iraq bought a bunch of havocs
« Reply #45 on: September 21, 2014, 02:07:04 PM »
Really? What Muslim countries have you guys sold arms to? How did the US prevent you from selling anything?
Start with Turkey, then some African countries. Iran, in the past. Not sure about Azerbaijan and the Kurds these days, lots of rumors. Most of it was hushed or unofficial.

The US demands that Israel clears every defense-related deal with them. It was hilarious when a US surveillance plane photographed a Chinese fighter that intercepted it a few years ago and then the US officials freaked out because the missiles on that fighter were recognized as Israelis. The US forced Israel to cancel early-warning radar planes deals with China and India (aka the "falcon deals") making the Israeli companies to lose millions, only to sell India a similar (though inferior) plane themselves. For years Israel was forbidden from selling Kfir fighters because the engine was american (though some were manufactured under license in Israel if I am not mistaken). One of the reasons to the cancellation of the Lavi fighter project was the realization (through not so moderate pressure) that it competes directly with the F16 and the US will prevent any sales, thus killing all possibility to cover its development expenses. Many other examples. With respect to the Merkava suggestion above, there is absolutely no way the US will clear this - if anything, they will sell M1 Abrams instead.
Mosquito VI - twice the spitfire, four times the ENY.

Click!>> "So, you want to fly the wooden wonder" - <<click!
the almost incomplete and not entirely inaccurate guide to the AH Mosquito.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGOWswdzGQs

Offline Rich46yo

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 7358
Re: Iraq bought a bunch of havocs
« Reply #46 on: September 21, 2014, 10:06:16 PM »
Israel both uses, and has stolen, to much US tech to build their military tech. I wont say more. Investigate yourselves.



Start with Turkey, then some African countries. Iran, in the past. Not sure about Azerbaijan and the Kurds these days, lots of rumors. Most of it was hushed or unofficial.

The US demands that Israel clears every defense-related deal with them. It was hilarious when a US surveillance plane photographed a Chinese fighter that intercepted it a few years ago and then the US officials freaked out because the missiles on that fighter were recognized as Israelis. The US forced Israel to cancel early-warning radar planes deals with China and India (aka the "falcon deals") making the Israeli companies to lose millions, only to sell India a similar (though inferior) plane themselves. For years Israel was forbidden from selling Kfir fighters because the engine was american (though some were manufactured under license in Israel if I am not mistaken). One of the reasons to the cancellation of the Lavi fighter project was the realization (through not so moderate pressure) that it competes directly with the F16 and the US will prevent any sales, thus killing all possibility to cover its development expenses. Many other examples. With respect to the Merkava suggestion above, there is absolutely no way the US will clear this - if anything, they will sell M1 Abrams instead.
"flying the aircraft of the Red Star"