Iraq bought a bunch of havocs

[FLOOB]

mi-28ne's to be exact
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zhmO1Yi-V0

[GScholz]

What part of Iraq?

[DaveBB]

This is a very complex helicopter.  Is this really the best helo for a counter-insurgency?

[Nath[BDP]]

[DaveBB]

Kiowa is a great helo, but it needs a cannon. 

[MrRiplEy[H]]

Seems kinda vulnerable to small arms fire.

[Nath[BDP]]

its a scout chopper light and fast

i just thought that was a great picture.  chopper looks battle-worn

[MrRiplEy[H]]

its a scout chopper light and fast

i just thought that was a great picture.  chopper looks battle-worn

I wonder if that plate next to the co-pilot is retractable armor plating. Would seem nonsensical to leave the crew totally exposed.

[GScholz]

They've already arrived in Iraq and are being assembled. The Iraqis have also bought Su-25's from Russia.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1MNRj2xbuo

[Vulcan]

Why is there a Rubics Cube mounted on that kiowa?

[WEZEL]

Why is there a Rubics Cube mounted on that kiowa?

I was wondering the same thing 

[bozon]

They've already arrived in Iraq and are being assembled. The Iraqis have also bought Su-25's from Russia.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1MNRj2xbuo

Where ever the US will pull out of, Putin will take over. Egypt is also going soviet again after 30 years of buying red white and blue, and not out of choice.

[DaveBB]

The Iraqis need stand-off canon capability with infrared sensors.  We've all seen the videos of the Apaches mowing downing insurgents with 30mm cannon at night from a couple kilometers away, both in Iraq and Afghanistan.  Rockets are very inaccurate, and are really an area fire weapon.  Hellfire missiles (or the Russian equivalent) are incredibly expensive.  Maintaining the Havocs and training competent crew members is going to be an extremely challenging task for the Iraqis.

[MrRiplEy[H]]

The Iraqis need stand-off canon capability with infrared sensors.  We've all seen the videos of the Apaches mowing downing insurgents with 30mm cannon at night from a couple kilometers away, both in Iraq and Afghanistan.  Rockets are very inaccurate, and are really an area fire weapon.  Hellfire missiles (or the Russian equivalent) are incredibly expensive.  Maintaining the Havocs and training competent crew members is going to be an extremely challenging task for the Iraqis.

The russian equivalent of hellfire is probably relatively inexpensive especially now that rubles exchange rate has sunk to bottom.

[Rich46yo]

Where ever the US will pull out of, Putin will take over. Egypt is also going soviet again after 30 years of buying red white and blue, and not out of choice.

Well what exactly is the threat level for Egypt and how much can they afford? We have been floating the place to the tune of Billions in years past. Do they really need Yank weapons and can they afford them? We've never really "sold" them anything. If they want to buy Russian we should thank them.