Author Topic: OK...so who flies the LA-7?  (Read 15175 times)

Offline GScholz

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Re: OK...so who flies the LA-7?
« Reply #90 on: October 11, 2014, 09:02:14 AM »
So you are taking all human intuition out of the flying of the planes and basing everything on their statistics? I can see why you haven't played in so many years. Must be a very boring game for you. Still, there is SOME statistical difference between the two planes, you have admitted this much yourself. I, personally, can feel it when flying them.

Well... First of all, you're not flying them. Your playing a computer game, and if you think it is not just about numbers you don't know much about computers. If you want to believe in some sort of ghost in the machine, that's fine, but don't expect me to take your word for it.
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Re: OK...so who flies the LA-7?
« Reply #91 on: October 11, 2014, 09:05:49 AM »
To me anyway the LA5 seems more stable at very slow speed when I am in a tight turn.

Perfect example of how this "feeling" is completely subjective. Mechanic "feels" the LA-7 is the superior stall fighter.


I bet that if we could turn the cockpit off and all other distinguishing features neither one of you could consistently tell them apart from low speed performance alone.
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Re: OK...so who flies the LA-7?
« Reply #92 on: October 11, 2014, 09:26:49 AM »
heheh I bet ya I could...................

But your entitled to your opinion as I am to mine.

The La-9 is just an all-metal La-7 whit a redesigned tail and laminar flow wings.

Im sure since that's all it was they prolly knocked it together in a few hours. Well before lunch break I would suspect.  :D
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Re: OK...so who flies the LA-7?
« Reply #93 on: October 11, 2014, 09:55:32 AM »
heheh I bet ya I could...................

But your entitled to your opinion as I am to mine.


Only if you present your credentials. Are you a man of 'style and innovation'? You need to prove that in the DA first   :old:
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Re: OK...so who flies the LA-7?
« Reply #94 on: October 11, 2014, 10:44:13 AM »
I don't know about innovation, but how's this pipe for style?!

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Re: OK...so who flies the LA-7?
« Reply #95 on: October 11, 2014, 11:22:28 AM »
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: OK...so who flies the LA-7?
« Reply #96 on: October 11, 2014, 11:32:35 AM »
I agree with Bat... there certainly feels like there's a good bit of extra oomph with the LA7.

I would guess that if there were actually as little difference between the two planes as the charts show there would be more of a split between people flying the LA5/7.  As it is, it's fairly uncommon to see an LA5 running around and I've never thought it was all because of one extra cannon.

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Re: OK...so who flies the LA-7?
« Reply #97 on: October 11, 2014, 11:41:36 AM »
Triton... Speed...  :huh
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Re: OK...so who flies the LA-7?
« Reply #98 on: October 11, 2014, 11:48:29 AM »
There is a big difference in the performance of these planes. You have to consider that 40 mph Make a huge difference in fights. Not to mention the la7 can excel a bit faster which makes a huge difference in gaining E during a stall fight. Just because charts show that they have similar characteristics, doesn't mean that fighting abilities and characteristics are the same.

Ohh and one more thing. This game is not real life, so argueing real life statistics with this game is not valid. And arguing fighting performance in this game vs real life is not valid.


And yes the La7 is an awesome freaking plane in real life.
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Re: OK...so who flies the LA-7?
« Reply #99 on: October 11, 2014, 12:17:42 PM »
I'm guessing you didn't bother to read the whole thread.
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Re: OK...so who flies the LA-7?
« Reply #100 on: October 11, 2014, 12:55:39 PM »
I actually did.
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Re: OK...so who flies the LA-7?
« Reply #101 on: October 11, 2014, 01:00:21 PM »

Only if you present your credentials. Are you a man of 'style and innovation'? You need to prove that in the DA first   :old:

You don't have to innovate or have style. But if you don't have any 'feeling' of how the planes handle and rely purely on chart numbers then you certainly will not ever innovate or be stylish in the virtual sky. Think LePape and his innovative and stylish moves. Think Krupnski with his tail slide reversal. Think WldThng with the barrel reversal. These are examples of innovators who are 'feeling' what the planes can do, not limiting themselves to a soulless statistical outlook.

People remember fighting these guys because their obvious flare and style left a lasting impression.

I have encountered you many times over the years. I have enjoyed the occasional high altitude bomber vs fighter chess game with you. But other than that I can't think of a single kill or fight that left me thinking 'wow, that was cool what he did there.' That is not meant as an insult, I could not care less how other people fly.

But it certainly proves how flying like a Scientist is hardly noticeable and wins little renown even when you win all the time.

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Re: OK...so who flies the LA-7?
« Reply #102 on: October 11, 2014, 01:01:26 PM »
Triton... Speed...  :huh

Right.  I'd argue that speed is one of the ways we feel power, and that extra power is what makes it feel like we're flying a different, more capable aircraft... especially when flown to the outer edges of the envelope.

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Re: OK...so who flies the LA-7?
« Reply #103 on: October 11, 2014, 01:03:23 PM »
I think the LA7 is one of the most fearce looking planes in in WW2
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Re: OK...so who flies the LA-7?
« Reply #104 on: October 11, 2014, 01:13:00 PM »
Flying like an Artist is memorable and garners huge respect even when you lose all the time.

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