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Offline Vraciu

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Re: Yea,, Back off on the #$*&@(@ Pilot wounds!
« Reply #60 on: October 22, 2014, 02:04:46 PM »
I haven't posted a K/D ratio, sir.

Really?



So for the purposes of discussion, I logged my stats for last night:

Time flown: 01:30:00 (one hour, thirty minutes)
Sorties: 10
Kills: 30
Deaths: 6

Fights (opponents encountered, kills+deaths): 36
Pilot wounds: 4
Pilot wounds from AA/ack: No

Aircraft flown
Sortie 1: P-47M
Fights: 1
PW's: No

Sortie 2: LA-7
Fights: 3
PW's: No

Sorties 3-10: Ta-152H
Fights: 32
PW's: 4

Of those pilot wounds, almost all shots were dead-6 shots. The one exception is a single HO (that was initiated by the thread starter, no less :P). So from that sample size, we have a 1 in 9 chance of pilot wounding. Somewhat lower than what I "feel" is normal, yet still higher than the 1/20 and even the 1/10 percentages we've discussed previously.

I'll try to keep a running tally once I have a larger sample size.
« Last Edit: October 22, 2014, 02:13:57 PM by Vraciu »
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Re: Yea,, Back off on the #$*&@(@ Pilot wounds!
« Reply #61 on: October 22, 2014, 02:05:35 PM »
Really?

As stated, what you quoted is not a ratio. You could calculate the ratio from that (if you were bored and just wanted to), but it's not a ratio nor did I supply one. You were saying, sir?
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Re: Yea,, Back off on the #$*&@(@ Pilot wounds!
« Reply #62 on: October 22, 2014, 02:06:37 PM »
Frankly, I'm too lazy to read all these posts but I have a question. Would you rather have PW or insta death? I'm almost thinking I would rather have Insta Death, but can't really say.
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Re: Yea,, Back off on the #$*&@(@ Pilot wounds!
« Reply #63 on: October 22, 2014, 02:13:17 PM »
As stated, what you quoted is not a ratio. You could calculate the ratio from that (if you were bored and just wanted to), but it's not a ratio nor did I supply one. You were saying, sir?


Your spin is worse than Fulcrum's.

You know what you did, "sir".

Just can't help yourself, can ya'?
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Offline Vraciu

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Re: Yea,, Back off on the #$*&@(@ Pilot wounds!
« Reply #64 on: October 22, 2014, 02:14:37 PM »
Frankly, I'm too lazy to read all these posts but I have a question. Would you rather have PW or insta death? I'm almost thinking I would rather have Insta Death, but can't really say.


Depends on the rate.

If the rate of insta-death is the same as the current PW then no thanks.
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Re: Yea,, Back off on the #$*&@(@ Pilot wounds!
« Reply #65 on: October 22, 2014, 02:25:08 PM »

Your spin is worse than Fulcrum's.

You know what you did, "sir".

Just can't help yourself, can ya'?

There's no spin. You said I posted a ratio; I proved I did not, sir.
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Re: Yea,, Back off on the #$*&@(@ Pilot wounds!
« Reply #66 on: October 22, 2014, 02:28:04 PM »
Frankly, I'm too lazy to read all these posts but I have a question. Would you rather have PW or insta death? I'm almost thinking I would rather have Insta Death, but can't really say.

I'd rather have insta-death, because it would show how frequent pilot hits are and, hopefully, subsequently be reduced after enough people vocalize it.
Skyyr

Tours:
166 - 190
198 - 204
218 - 220
286 - 287
290 - ---

nrshida: "I almost beat Skyyr after he took a 6 year break!"
A few moments later...

vs Shane: 26-9

"Some men just want to watch the world burn."

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Re: Yea,, Back off on the #$*&@(@ Pilot wounds!
« Reply #67 on: October 22, 2014, 02:29:17 PM »
There's no spin. You said I posted a ratio; I proved I did not, sir.

 :rofl

30:6


Your kill total IN PARTICULAR was not needed.   Totally irrelevant chest thumping.   "Look at me.  I am Skyyr."
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Re: Yea,, Back off on the #$*&@(@ Pilot wounds!
« Reply #68 on: October 22, 2014, 02:30:38 PM »
I'd rather have insta-death, because it would show how frequent pilot hits are and, hopefully, subsequently be reduced after enough people vocalize it.

This is an argument I can agree with.   Except that it will not be changed.   Complaints won't matter.
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Re: Yea,, Back off on the #$*&@(@ Pilot wounds!
« Reply #69 on: October 22, 2014, 02:48:54 PM »

Your spin is worse than Fulcrum's.

You know what you did, "sir".

Just can't help yourself, can ya'?

There was no spin involved.   

At this point I think any post from a member of your former squad would spark a negative post from you.

Thanks for your contribution.
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Re: Yea,, Back off on the #$*&@(@ Pilot wounds!
« Reply #70 on: October 22, 2014, 02:56:43 PM »
I thought that was what I was doing! :)

Forgive me; I have received many PWs in my P-47, armored as it were.

Thank you for your contribution as well.
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Re: Yea,, Back off on the #$*&@(@ Pilot wounds!
« Reply #71 on: October 22, 2014, 03:22:32 PM »
There was no spin involved.   

At this point I think any post from a member of your former squad would spark a negative post from you.

Thanks for your contribution.


Yes, that's why it is my former squad, thankfully.  You guys are never on the level.   There is always an ulterior motive.

Grow up.
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Re: Yea,, Back off on the #$*&@(@ Pilot wounds!
« Reply #72 on: October 22, 2014, 03:48:41 PM »

Yes, that's why it is my former squad, thankfully.  You guys are never on the level.   There is always an ulterior motive.

Grow up.

 :lol


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Re: Yea,, Back off on the #$*&@(@ Pilot wounds!
« Reply #73 on: October 22, 2014, 05:20:21 PM »

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 :lol :aok


Even if the data you based your premise on was true, and not mearly a thinly veiled personal shot, your statement makes very little sense given my own experience.  

For me, the vast majority of PW's tend to come the side or behind (the 3 to 9 o'clock arc) or from shots ABOVE my cockpit.  I can't remember the last time I had a pw from a HO.

I have always figured this was intentionally modeled based on real world conditions.  You know....the thousand odd pounds of metal and machinery (i.e. the "engine") most WWII warbirds have in front of the pilot/cockpit acting as a shield?  But that's just a guess.

     Not the brightest bulb on the tree are you ?  In order to HO you must place your plane in the opponent's flight path, and therefore IN THEIR SIGHTS. here's a news flash genius.. if you are in their sights your chances of getting hit greatly improve !  and you could have the engine of a mack truck in front of you, that does nothing for the thin piece of glass  that exposes your head and shoulders. out of the 150+ bullets streaming out of the plane closing on you,,, there's a pretty good chance atleast 1 will find it's way into the cockpit.  And the data I base my premise on is HIS films. of the 5 or so I watched, mostly him in a 190, it was the same everytime..  Extend and climb, turn and come down on the opponent head on firing all guns. the only thing that semi impressed me was his aim.
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Re: Yea,, Back off on the #$*&@(@ Pilot wounds!
« Reply #74 on: October 22, 2014, 05:44:28 PM »
:rofl

30:6


Your kill total IN PARTICULAR was not needed.   Totally irrelevant chest thumping.   "Look at me.  I am Skyyr."


5:1 (Cause '30:6' just bugs me.)