Cost for Bomber Bailing Epidemic

[lyric1]

Any damage caused by bombers if not shot down all damage is immediately repaired. That goes for all the one way trippers as well.

[Volron]

Any damage caused by bombers if not shot down all damage is immediately repaired. That goes for all the one way trippers as well.

They still get their perks, so most won't care.  If anything, you just made it easier to farm for perks really.  Up Ki-67's, hit town center, bail.  Rinse and repeat.

Also, what is your definition of "shot down"?

[Tilt]

I still believe that perking heavy ordinance would contribute to a solution here. It would have to be part of a more dynamic perk system but basically if repeated failures to complete missions degrades the ability to load heavier ordinance then the motivation increases to bring the planes home or the ability to influence arena game play thru bombing is diminished.

[Volron]

I still believe that perking heavy ordinance would contribute to a solution here. It would have to be part of a more dynamic perk system but basically if repeated failures to complete missions degrades the ability to load heavier ordinance then the motivation increases to bring the planes home or the ability to influence arena game play thru bombing is diminished.

I don't see how this will really work out though.  For fighters, yes.  But for bombers?  No.

[bozon]

As I said before, put a small perk tag on the drones (1st bomber for free). If they want to bail for free they should take a single buff.

[guncrasher]

Have it show up on the buffer "*playername* has bailed out of *aircraft type*"

Then publicly humiliate them for it

(Beat me to it)

I ball from aircraft all the time and so do others just to go somewhere else to fight.

But think of this scenario., there's an noe raid at a certain base the all of a sudden the warning comes on country and the text buffer fills up with 10 or 15 pilots that just ball out of undamaged aircraft.   a sure warning to the noe guys that they have been found.

bailing out is just like hoing, you are not going to stop it.

And to finish, not that I don't believe you guys but I find bombers every day I fly,  but it is rare for me to find one that bails.   Think some exaggeration is high in this thread.



semp

[Slade]

The second one only bails when engaged. He does it to deny the enemy a possible kill.

yyyYep.  That does seem to be the recurring pattern to me.


Good posts all.  Maybe AH will see one or more suggestions for change in here that they feel are reasonable.

[Aspen]

No to most of the above.   The game is suppose to be fun and trying to mold behavior through punishment is a tough road.  The fix (if one is needed) is increasing the reward for bombers who don't bail.  You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink.  Quit trying to make them drink.  Make him thirsty and he'll drink on his own. 

[Wiley]

And to finish, not that I don't believe you guys but I find bombers every day I fly,  but it is rare for me to find one that bails.   Think some exaggeration is high in this thread.



semp

It may have something to do with playing time.  I relatively rarely see a buff bail during primetime.  I much more often see them bail when I get to play on weekend mornings/afternoons.  It seems plausible the same would apply on weekdays.

Wiley.

[JimmyD3]

There are more than a few long time players doing this, and they know better.

[Wiley]

Sorry, I meant time of day that it tends to happen, not amount of playing time.

People are going to do it, just like NOEs are going to bail/auger when discovered.  I've come to the conclusion you just need to accept the bad with the good in a sandbox game.  It gives you the freedom to do anything within the bounds of possibility in the game.  It also gives other people that same ability.

Wiley.

[Chris79]

I find that most of the fun involved with running buffs is either manning you guns to fend of fighters, or ditching your drones and slugging it out. I have bailed before, but only when there are no cons in the area and I have a long boring flight home.

[noman]

Sorry, I meant time of day that it tends to happen, not amount of playing time.

People are going to do it, just like NOEs are going to bail/auger when discovered.  I've come to the conclusion you just need to accept the bad with the good in a sandbox game.  It gives you the freedom to do anything within the bounds of possibility in the game.  It also gives other people that same ability.

Wiley.

I have never seen a bish NOE raid bail due to being discovered. To me that just means we will have to wook a little harder and smarter to get the base.

[Vinkman]

yep, just had 2 bomb n bailers in less than 30 minutes. Would it be possible to take score away from those that bail from undamaged bombers?

-1

While Understand your frustration, making someone be a target against their will, seems anti-freedom.  You just have to manage your expectations, not everyone elses game play. 

[lyric1]

They still get their perks, so most won't care.  If anything, you just made it easier to farm for perks really.  Up Ki-67's, hit town center, bail.  Rinse and repeat.

Also, what is your definition of "shot down"?

If you make a bomb run on strats for example & you manage to knock them down to 50% & bail immediately from undamaged aircraft. As well as nose diving to rip you aircraft apart auguring & so on. The strat immediately repairs its self no damage to strats no perk points no achievement of any kind for the now non mission.

If any enemy damages your plane by shooting at you & hits you as it is now he gets the credit & the perks if the pilot so wants to bail. If he chooses to bail at the sight of any enemy prior to bomb run proxy range increased to 30K for the closest enemy player. I have popped dar bar chasing bombers the moment they see it they bail. They are to far away for filming but time wasted by the pursuer should be rewarded any how with the 30K proxy.

  Or something like that.

My perspective is you want what you do to count then fly home & land.