Cost for Bomber Bailing Epidemic

[Volron]

It's funny, a game about combat has so many ways to avoid it!

HTC needs to add the little radar screen that they have in War Thunder.  The only difference is it will ALWAYS show which way enemy aircraft and ground vehicles are.  Pulling up the map will show every enemy plane and gv as well.  The visual icon showing the plane and/or gv will pop up at 10k, and will always show regardless if they are behind clouds, terrain and/or buildings.  This will work from a gv as well.

I have solved your problem with people hiding.

[bustr]

Can you imagine the fun everyone would have!


...and if your referring to the 12 hours rule, the topic is not taboo, the attitude and lack of respect toward HTC IS.

It's funny, a game about combat has so many ways to avoid it!

Lets all start singing Age of Aquarius and don our gender neutral bunny suits and hold hands. Otherwise accept the human condition is generally being a coward where it comes to risking ones self, how ever the format. They are not playing a combat game to fight against you and beat your manhood. They are playing a game to avoid you the evil monster trying to kill them while making you cry.

Saying that, what group of lesser beings do you wish Hitech to horse whip next month?

[Groth]

 If I up bombers..I fly them till I land or die.
 The only exception is Bostons...than I'll bail 2 and fight ya with one left...
 But that's just me.
                   JGroth

[The Fugitive]

Lets all start singing Age of Aquarius and don our gender neutral bunny suits and hold hands. Otherwise accept the human condition is generally being a coward where it comes to risking ones self, how ever the format. They are not playing a combat game to fight against you and beat your manhood. They are playing a game to avoid you the evil monster trying to kill them while making you cry.

Saying that, what group of lesser beings do you wish Hitech to horse whip next month?

If they think they are "risking" themselves they have far too many problems and should not be wasting money on a game and should instead invest in a good shrink!

[guncrasher]

If I up bombers..I fly them till I land or die.
 The only exception is Bostons...than I'll bail 2 and fight ya with one left...
 But that's just me.
                   JGroth

on the other hand if the fighter only attacks when in a position of advantage, then I'll bail out just to upset him .  the irony is that some of the guys who yell the loudest will only attack a bomber when they have the advantage.  and some of them wont even attack a fighter unless they have the advantage and when they lose it then they run.


semp

[Zimme83]

on the other hand if the fighter only attacks when in a position of advantage, then I'll bail out just to upset him .  the irony is that some of the guys who yell the loudest will only attack a bomber when they have the advantage.  and some of them wont even attack a fighter unless they have the advantage and when they lose it then they run.


semp

Why wouldnt they attack from a position of advantage? Thats the point of flying a fast and agile fighter, to put yourself in the best possible position before the attack on the bombers. No point of climb to 25-30k and then attack from dead 6 and get shot down before u even scratch the paint of the bombers.

[guncrasher]

Why wouldnt they attack from a position of advantistudmuffine? Thats the point of flying a fast and agile fighter, to put yourself in the best possible position before the attack on the bombers. No point of climb to 25-30k and then attack from dead 6 and get shot down before u even scratch the paint of the bombers.

think about it the fighter pilot has the option to attack or run.  Why remove that option from the bombers, let them run (bail)  if they choose to do so.   


semp

[Wiley]

(To the tune of "If you're happy and you know it")

Iiiiiif you're at a disadvantage just hit "bail"
If you're at a disadvantage just hit "bail"
If you're at a disadvantage
and you really just can't manage
If you're at a disadvantage just hit "bail"

think about it the fighter pilot has the option to attack or run.  Why remove that option from the bombers, let them run (bail)  if they choose to do so.   


semp

Graphics and game mechanics are nothing.  This right here is the biggest thing wrong with the game.

Wiley.

[guncrasher]

wiley do you attack every single target you see?  Do you deprive other players of a kill because you decide to rtb instead?  Do you fight till you die every single sorty? Ever used ack on b your own base to avoid b getting killed?.

What is wrong with b the game is people exagerating a problem that doesn't exist.   I have seen 1 set of Bombers bail in past few weeks. 


semp

[kvuo75]

wiley do you attack every single target you see?  Do you deprive other players of a kill because you decide to rtb instead? 

rtb'ing and bailing are two different things

do you bail out of ar234's? or do you rtb? i'm guessing you rtb them because they are fast enough.  so, bailing is being done purely to avoid combat/getting killed

you might have a point about it being exaggerated though, i personally haven't had bombers bail on me that i can remember.. i don't play all that much lately though.


whatever the case i don't see the problem with extending the proxy range to 6k or even the maximum (10k?)

[Wiley]

wiley do you attack every single target you see?  Do you deprive other players of a kill because you decide to rtb instead?  Do you fight till you die every single sorty? Ever used ack on b your own base to avoid b getting killed?.

If I have bullets and enough fuel to deadstick home, pretty much.  I use whatever I have at my disposal, but very rarely ack drag, about the only time I'm going to do that is if I'm upping into a vulch.  Usually I up 1 base over in that situation so it rarely happens.  What you're advocating for is essentially equivalent to a fighter bailing anytime someone gets his six.  It is beyond lame.

What is wrong with b the game is people exagerating a problem that doesn't exist.   I have seen 1 set of Bombers bail in past few weeks. 


semp

I only see 3 or 4ish a month, but they are generally all during the day.  I've noticed it in particular during the day not on stat holidays.  Daytime seems to bring out the milkrunners for some reason.  Most of my playtime is primetime.  I'm betting depending on time of day you play the problem is larger or smaller.  I'm happy you don't see it, but that doesn't mean it doesn't happen.  I rarely see Lancstukas.  I rarely half the things people talk about happening to them all the time in game, doesn't mean they don't exist.

Wiley.

[Lusche]

I only see 3 or 4ish a month, but they are generally all during the day.

It all depends what / how you are flying. A palyer that does the standard base centred low/med altitude stuff will see them less often, and mostly of the "bail after drop" type.

If you are hunting strat raiders, you will encounter them much more often, mostly of the "bail when enemy shows up" kind.

Just now I had upped for a suspicios darbar, which I thought to be a potential city raider.
And what happens after tracking down the Tu-2's at in my Ta152H 17k after about 20 minutes of searching? - As soon as I get into his icon range, AseHold bails from all three...

[bustr]

Your AsHold must have known the same feelings as unescorted bomber crews over Europe in 43.

This is one of the few places a random AI bomber stream like the timed trains might be applicable to the MA. Otherwise you are requesting Hitech target a specific group of paying customers and publicly horse whip them for paying him $14.95 because you are unhappy.

[Lusche]

Your AsHold must have known the same feelings as unescorted bomber crews over Europe in 43.

This is one of the few places a random AI bomber stream like the timed trains might be applicable to the MA. Otherwise you are requesting Hitech target a specific group of paying customers and publicly horse whip them for paying him $14.95 because you are unhappy.

Making proxy range and icon show range the same is "horsewipping" customers? 


And no, I don't want to shoot AI drones out of the sky. I signed up to hunt and battle cunning, elusive & skilled humans. I don't have any interest in timed AI bomber streams. I might as well play an offline game then.

[Wiley]

Your AsHold must have known the same feelings as unescorted bomber crews over Europe in 43.

Ah yes...  the history books are filled to the brim with tales of the bomber crews bravely leaping from their aircraft upon sight of the enemy.

This is one of the few places a random AI bomber stream like the timed trains might be applicable to the MA. Otherwise you are requesting Hitech target a specific group of paying customers and publicly horse whip them for paying him $14.95 because you are unhappy.

Making Proxy range the max distance, and making proxies count for perks if you're in a vehicle (not field guns) would solve most of my issue with it.  It would still suck but at least they wouldn't be 'cheating' me out of the perks I'm about to try to get.

Wiley.