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Offline atlau

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Why can't we fire bomber guns on runway?
« on: April 23, 2015, 06:52:25 PM »
Why can't we fire bomber guns on runway?

I'm pretty sure a gunner could fire the guns while taking off... if he really wanted to. Why cant we in AH?

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Re: Why can't we fire bomber guns on runway?
« Reply #1 on: April 23, 2015, 07:48:46 PM »
To prevent them being used as mobile ack platforms against vulchers.

I honestly wish we could fire them on the ground... to be used as mobile ack platforms against vulchers.  :devil
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Re: Why can't we fire bomber guns on runway?
« Reply #2 on: April 23, 2015, 08:25:35 PM »
To prevent them being used as mobile ack platforms against vulchers.

I would happily sortie bombers if they let me kill those eunuchs from the runway.   :)
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Re: Why can't we fire bomber guns on runway?
« Reply #3 on: April 23, 2015, 09:15:05 PM »
And what's wrong with mobile ack guns? :)

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Re: Why can't we fire bomber guns on runway?
« Reply #4 on: April 24, 2015, 02:09:02 AM »
I think it might have something to do with driving your bomber out of the bushes at the end of a runway fragging everyone spawning.
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Re: Why can't we fire bomber guns on runway?
« Reply #5 on: April 24, 2015, 03:37:38 AM »
Why can't we fire bomber guns on runway?

I'm pretty sure a gunner could fire the guns while taking off... if he really wanted to. Why cant we in AH?
:airplane: I suspect that it was because during the war, all on board guns were stowed in a safe manner, with the chamber empty for safety reasons. No one touched a weapon until the aircraft commander announced on the inter com to release your weapons, lock and load.
I see the point though, as I to have been killed on the runway, taking off. I TO, would like to be able to fire the guns when sitting defenseless on the ground.
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Re: Why can't we fire bomber guns on runway?
« Reply #6 on: April 24, 2015, 06:22:59 AM »
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And what's wrong with mobile ack guns?

I wonder if we'd see squadrons of land based B-17s\B-29s lining up around a de-ACT'd base.  Perhaps even a fleet surrounding a city for added air defense.

... or a small fleet of ditched B-17s to protect a CV.


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Re: Why can't we fire bomber guns on runway?
« Reply #7 on: April 24, 2015, 06:30:20 AM »
I wonder if we'd see squadrons of land based B-17s\B-29s lining up around a de-ACT'd base.  Perhaps even a fleet surrounding a city for added air defense.

... or a small fleet of ditched B-17s to protect a CV.


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How would that be any worse than a bunch of hand-holders vulching uppers? 
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Re: Why can't we fire bomber guns on runway?
« Reply #8 on: April 24, 2015, 06:52:42 AM »
The ability to constantly re-spawn bombers as ack platforms.............. was abused.
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Re: Why can't we fire bomber guns on runway?
« Reply #9 on: April 24, 2015, 06:55:28 AM »
The ability to constantly re-spawn bombers as ack platforms.............. was abused.

And how many new players quit because they got sledgehammered so many times, that $14.95 seemed like a bad deal?
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Re: Why can't we fire bomber guns on runway?
« Reply #10 on: April 24, 2015, 07:11:38 AM »
And how many new players quit because they got sledgehammered so many times, that $14.95 seemed like a bad deal?

sigh..... if only life were so simple... back then fields had auto 88's and 37mm gguns which were increasing in number with every revision

Since then 88's have gone and come back as player controlled guns and some more defences still added.

Plus in those days player numbers were increasing and (according to HT) vulching was a valid and laudable tactic agin any player upping under enemy cap by any player who was either fool enough to risk the gguns or had gone to the trouble to kill them.
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Re: Why can't we fire bomber guns on runway?
« Reply #11 on: April 24, 2015, 07:38:23 AM »
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How would that be any worse than a bunch of hand-holders vulching uppers?

Who's fault is it to up from a capped field again?

100% of vulches on take off are avoidable.  :old:

Yes it is inconvenient to not be able to up from a capped field.  Sorry.
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Re: Why can't we fire bomber guns on runway?
« Reply #12 on: April 24, 2015, 08:22:49 AM »

100% of vulches on take off are avoidable.  :old:


yeah, and the hangars can be killed so nobody can up at all..

are either tactics promoting combat between players?

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Re: Why can't we fire bomber guns on runway?
« Reply #13 on: April 24, 2015, 09:13:30 AM »
yeah, and the hangars can be killed so nobody can up at all..

are either tactics promoting combat between players?

Is ackstarring 'combat' now?  Edit:  For that matter, is vulching?

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Re: Why can't we fire bomber guns on runway?
« Reply #14 on: April 24, 2015, 09:20:09 AM »
Is ackstarring 'combat' now?  Edit:  For that matter, is vulching?


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