any old school ford guys?

[homersipes]

my dad is in process of building a 67 fastback and wants some wow factor in a wow factor car so he wants to build up a true boss engine, but he's having problems locating parts and info.  I don't know much about fords but he called it a clevor 302.  I guess it takes a windsor block and cleveland heads.  any of you gus have any info or know a legit place to get parts for this thing??

[Randy1]

Cleveland refers to the heads.  Windsor was the common head and Cleveland the higher performance head albeit there are exceptions to when the Cleveland heads were used.  It has been a while but I think the Cleveland heads breathed a bit better than the common head of the day.

There was a guy importing ford heads from Australia where the Cleveland heads were more widely used and rebuilding them here several years back.  Do a google is your best beat.

[caldera]

He will get better results building something like a 331 stroker with modern aluminum heads.  He can still go with a Victor Jr. intake and a carb and save himself a few headaches.

[ROC]

http://www.mustangandfords.com/how-to/engine/mdmp-1011-ford-boss-302-engine-build/
If he is going for purity, building a "true" Boss 302 only works if he is building an actual Boss 302 mustang.
The technology has changed so dramatically that he can actually build a Wow factor 302 without the old "boss" label.
Go for for ballz out performance or "restore" to original specs but don't think the old Boss had WOW like today's technology can wow.  My mildly punched 2005 stang can out perform a spec late 60s Boss.
I can't imagine anyone who has a 67 Fastback not at least knowing where to start, such as http://mustangforums.com, there are countless mustang mod sources and there is an amazing amount of information at your fingertips to either fully restore or modify a Mustang.
Pics or it doesn't exist!!!!    Great body, personally I lean towards the fat arse of the 69 fastback but the 67 is a sexy beast.

[Masherbrum]

http://www.mustangandfords.com/how-to/engine/mdmp-1011-ford-boss-302-engine-build/
If he is going for purity, building a "true" Boss 302 only works if he is building an actual Boss 302 mustang.
The technology has changed so dramatically that he can actually build a Wow factor 302 without the old "boss" label.
Go for for ballz out performance or "restore" to original specs but don't think the old Boss had WOW like today's technology can wow.  My mildly punched 2005 stang can out perform a spec late 60s Boss.
I can't imagine anyone who has a 67 Fastback not at least knowing where to start, such as http://mustangforums.com, there are countless mustang mod sources and there is an amazing amount of information at your fingertips to either fully restore or modify a Mustang.
Pics or it doesn't exist!!!!    Great body, personally I lean towards the fat arse of the 69 fastback but the 67 is a sexy beast.

Excellent advice right here.   

[homersipes]

lol he isnt really looking for a performance engine, just something different and not seen very often anymore.  will have to get him to send me a few pics of the car
he has this car for his performance needs
will get him to send pics of 67 when I talk to him

[Randy1]

I remember going to the Ford dealer to see the first Boss.  Sells were less than stellar because raw horsepower was what was selling not balance and handling like the Boss.

[Skuzzy]

ROC pretty much nailed it.  Stick with all original, or go all out.  The Boss 302 engine is not all that.  It had a lot of flaws.

My 67 289 Mustang completely mauled Boss 302's at the track.

If you want to go somewhat old school, then start with a set of Trick Flow Twisted Wedge heads (make sure to match the pistons) as they were the first aftermarket high performance head for the Ford small block which really worked.  They are still a good head today.

Drop a 3:73 TruTrac 9" rear end in the back, hooked up through a Tremec T56 and have some serious fun.  Makes a very streetable car while not giving up the ability to launch like  a rocket.

[RotBaron]

Does being a Bronco lover count?

Did you see the Bronco Concept for 2016, oh my that is one beautiful truck!

[Nypsy]

I have nothing to add to this discussion, except...

[Rich46yo]

I had a '66 289 Pony and a buddy had a "Bullet" '68 fastback. Wonderful engine, so many ways to go with it. Shelby proved that and you can still have one delivered in a crate. I know what I'd do and it wouldnt be the 302. Just my opinion. I had 3 289s thru the years, 2 from '66 one a Pony the other a Fairlane. I would probably kill to get those two cars back.

[-ammo-]

My vote is put a 355 CI Supercharged Triton in the car.  Oh my...

[Randy1]

My 67 289 Mustang completely mauled Boss 302's at the track.

Drag?

[icepac]

A hot and high revving 289 would be sweet and practical.

The wow factor is a 390 with top loader 4 speed for period correct unless you're gonna make a fake shelby.......then you need the 428.

[RotBaron]

As much as I've always preferred Fords, I have a '92 Blazer these days. It's more with trucks...

But Mustangs pfffft; it's really hard to compete with your biggest rival on looks. Corvettes hands down imo have almost always had it on beauty.

Now, Cobras    Different deal there.


On safety though, your Mustang, I'd rather be in than a 'Vette.