Rook Coordinated Ops

[popeye]

Looking forward to joining the fun.

(kong)

[Hetzer7]

You know we abuse the system until Hitech steps in and shuts us down because we always refuse to stop going to the well we polluted as long as we get away with it. And then we blame Hitech because we poisoned ourselves by placing the poisoned water in our own mouths and swallow.

Nothing may come of it but, I bet that's what they thought back in AH1.

What the heck are you talking about?

[Rich46yo]

I learned an awful lot about Mossie's from Odd. Now Odd never went base bashing with Mossie's but we would take them up specifically to hunt enemy fighter planes, and you know what? I learned a squad of Mossie's, working as a team, utilizing B@Z tactics from 10k to 12k down to 6k, are a very, very formidable force to control airspace with.

With no ords and the proper fuel load out 4 to 6 of them, working together, are a very lethal force when flown disciplined in the verticle. When you stay between 6k to 12k the Mossie is a different animal. I miss those missions, we learned a lot from Odd during them.

[bustr]

What the heck are you talking about?

You haven't been in our game very long then. We got ENY in AH1 due to a well meaning well organized effort that took on a life of it's own. Same as all of the times since then Hitech has stepped in and changed the game to keep us from chasing out customers because something took on a life of it's own. More often it is something not organized where an oversight has been leveraged like the 163's perk cost increase reason. Or suddenly with lower player numbers, the HQ going down repeatedly every night.

Nothing may come of this but, with the lower numbers in the MA, it takes less to impact those numbers and make them feel like logging off. If the process takes on a life of it's own, canceled subscriptions. We used to have the numbers that it didn't matter if the HQ went down. Very often the HQ raider simply didn't make it due to numbers. Now we are down to small numbers of customers who don't want to spend their short valuble time chasing greifers who are capitalizing on the small numbers.

If Odd's new joint rook operation can force multiply by using a majority of the available players and shut down the small numbers of scattered players in a single country we have today in the MA. One night will be an adventure, if it becomes SOP with life of it's own, AH1 deja vu. And all those years ago, Odd knows that Hitech stepped in because players chose to leave the game.

That is called drinking from the well you poisoned yourself because it tastes too good to stop. 

[APDrone]

For those who haven't been around since 2001, Bustr is referring to the Rook Joint Operations that began in the last couple months of 2001 and stretched well into 2002. 

Just a brief review of what I remember ( and some old e-mails I still have lying around in a filing cabinet ) .. the Rooks were being ganged by knight and bishops quite frequently(even posts on the BBS confirmed that ) , near the end of 2001.. also correlating to the mass influx of new blood from the recently executed Air Warrior.  A few of the large Rook squads decided to try to coordinate efforts on Sunday nights and RJO was born.  It started out as a riot but, as with many good things it did get out of hand and become the penultimate definition of what a horde was.  Looking back, yeah, it got out of control.  Remembering back to the dark times before, however, it did provide some vengence and retribution for the rook persecution that led to that era. 

No, I don't want to see Odd's effort expand to that level again, but a nice operation with multiple squads would be a good change.

I tried to find some BBS references about RJO at the time, but even at page 2050, the time linearity collapses in this category and I quit trying after a few minutes.

 

[The Fugitive]

Here are a few pages that Drone is talking about....

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,54163.msg492432.html#msg492432

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,75605.msg720930.html#msg720930

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,109039.msg1126983.html#msg1126983

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,68496.msg640061.html#msg640061

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,69971.msg657057.html#msg657057

The thing that these combined ops have in their favor is...

1. They are run by guys who are out to have fun and MAKE fun for everyone on all sides. Base capture, while on to ticket isn't the main focus. The old RJO was more in the line of kicking @zz because they could.

2. While there are still a bunch of squads in AH, they are no longer what they use to be. Very few squads have a squad night let alone "operations". Few squads can pull together any numbers, let along the numbers Bustr seems to be worried about.

If 40 guys hit 3 bases on 2 fronts I really doubt it will upset the balance of the game. WHat the enemy will see is 10-12 guys coming in and hitting a few bases. Small attacks with purpose. That purpose  to have a fight over a field, instead of playing "wack a mole", "chase the porkers", "resupply HQ.... AGAIN" and all the old favorites we seem to be stuck playing now.

You pigs are always calling out "come fight us!, well Thursday you might find a few to fight you.

[Volron]

Leaving out the strats narrows things in my opinion.  One way I see is:  Several sets of heavy bombers tasked with hitting strats, running with escorts and having point of entry/exit sectors that all follow.  Supporting the heavy bombers are several sets of medium bombers hitting various fields along the route or at the very least the entry/exit sectors, also running with escorts.  Then you have fighter groups, running jabo/fighter sweep, porking and/or base taking, possibly taking the bases the mediums are hitting.

If they go for the heavies, you could get some solid takes.  If they ignore the heavies, damage inflicted to the strats makes the jabo porker's work stick longer.  Definitely not an easy plan regardless.

[maxy]

i remember back to tour 75 when i first started with AH , i flew Bish at the time and one of the most epic memories was when the Rooks had coordinated incredibly large missions and devastated every field in their path , i will never forget those days , i died so many times trying to kill those bombers ....

[MrGeezer]

Ever hear of the knights?  No?  Didn't think so.

[guncrasher]

i remember back to tour 75 when i first started with AH , i flew Bish at the time and one of the most epic memories was when the Rooks had coordinated incredibly large missions and devastated every field in their path , i will never forget those days , i died so many times trying to kill those bombers ....

saying tour 75 is meaningless.  so please  let the rest of us in the know and say something like summer of 2008.  heck we'll even take when that band camp movie came out.


semp

[Lusche]

i remember back to tour 75 when i first started with AH , i flew Bish at the time and one of the most epic memories was when the Rooks had coordinated incredibly large missions and devastated every field in their path , i will never forget those days , i died so many times trying to kill those bombers ....

That were the original LCA missions. I was rook at the time they started and after short time I permanently switched to Knight because of the devastating effects those missions had on a whole front line (= no one to shoot at)

[Hetzer7]

You haven't been in our game very long then.

Thank you for taking the time to bring myself and all those whove been playing for less than 13 years up to speed. <S> - Hetz

[mbailey]

I was in the 91st, and these missions were a blast. The only time we did not have fun if no one came up to fight, but fun anyway

Some of my favorite times in game......seeing my 82nd Squadies and 20th guys off my wings, and seeing the 91st and Dickweeds down at our low 1  oclock   

[maxy]

saying tour 75 is meaningless.  so please  let the rest of us in the know and say something like summer of 2008.  heck we'll even take when that band camp movie came out.


semp

ahh yes April of 2006

[HawkerMKII]

Some of my favorite times in game......seeing my 82nd Squadies and 20th guys off my wings, and seeing the 91st and Dickweeds down at our low 1  oclock   

Correct me if I am wrong, but it was great seeing you all in formation flying them 38's to fly escort for us. The good thing about Eggs missions was we were not out to really do any base take, yes we would kill a base or two, but more to see if we could get into some nail biting action and make it home