Top Late War Killers

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Against Yak3's , Hispanos are close to useless, take a look how Bozon kills a Yak3 with Hispanos only, with revealing pictures.

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,369327.0.html

The mossie only needs a hint of a snapshot to down the pony due to canons being howitzers in Aces High. That will win a fight over E. Case closed. 

[Squire]

Against Yak3's , Hispanos are close to useless

With respect.

Bull****.

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so do you think 21 20 mm hispano hits to kill a Yak3 is BS, or what is ?
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[JunkyII]

With many other facets of performance being similar, the high speed flaps of the Pony will get you inside a Mossie's turn in a duel. It wouldn't even be a close fight in my opinion for that simple fact. Once you have that little bit of an edge there is not much the Mossie can do to escape. When fighting most of the other plane set, if you choose to go for angles on the merge, you had better saddle up or convert quickly because once the fight gets slow the 51 is not nearly as effective as it tends to wallow, especially in a scissors. However, against a Mossie, the 51 is just as good if not better at slower speeds so the initial angles advantage would be decisive.

My thoughts exactly, just put into text a lot better

[Tumor]

HT, I'd say this particular quote

"but the truth is, they simply want the Pony to give up it's particular advantage so they can have a chance at gunning it down"

was directed towards other players who want the Pony driver to slow down to turn with them, not HTC

You would be correct.

[Ack-Ack]

so do you think 21 20 mm hispano hits to kill a Yak3 is BS, or what is ?
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It doesn't take that many 20mm rounds to take down a Yak 3, if you find that it does then the problem isn't with the 20mm cannon, it's the crappy aim of the pilot.

[Scherf]

Um, that post has pics of all the hits - as in, aim was not crappy, aim caused couple dozen hits before the Yak went down.

[BaldEagl]

Um, that post has pics of all the hits - as in, aim was not crappy, aim caused couple dozen hits before the Yak went down.

Yaks are tough planes.  I was fighting in a Yak 9 once in a me on multi.  I got hit so many times I had oil and radiator leaks, and was missing a cannon, an elevator and a wingtip and was still fighting.  I think I got another one or two in that state and IIRC I eventually exited safely.

[JunkyII]

Yak3 is the only one of the Yak's that it takes a ton more damage then the others...it's been brought up before and nobody could provide any info that it was a tougher plane then the others.

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The film , from where the pictures in link have been extracted, has been sent to HTC.

[bozon]

The film , from where the pictures in link have been extracted, has been sent to HTC.

Not exactly.
Another film has been sent to HTC where a yak3 lost its engine to a P51 in a HO, continued to fight as a glider and took a load of Hispano from a mossie with no parts falling off of it, dived into his acks across the field, made a flat 270 degrees turn at zero alt, during which it was hit by a 190A5, and proceeded to land safely at his base.

It was when the yak3 was still new and I was still shocked by its resistance to cannons. I stopped collecting these films.

[Squire]

Fly it and see. It does not take any more damage than a Yak-9T, or a Yak-9U or Yak-7.

The rest is urban myth, one-off engagements (with film! omg!)  poor aim, bruised egos, echo chamber logic and skewered assumptions such as "its not my ride so there could be something wrong with it".

...been flying Yaks for a long time...been shooting Yaks for a long time...been dying in Yaks for a long time. 

So I say again. Absolute, unmitigated, B.S.

[JunkyII]

Fly it and see. It does not take any more damage than a Yak-9T, or a Yak-9U or Yak-7.

The rest is urban myth, one-off engagements (with film! omg!)  poor aim, bruised egos, echo chamber logic and skewered assumptions such as "its not my ride so there could be something wrong with it".

...been flying Yaks for a long time...been shooting Yaks for a long time...been dying in Yaks for a long time. 

So I say again. Absolute, unmitigated, B.S.

It's a noticeable difference between the Yak3 and all other yaks. In game I would consider the Yak3 the toughest fighter in the game...even over the hell at and other tough birds...but I'm not sure if historically it was...

[Vinkman]

Stats compiled from the AH plane stats page:  http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/scores/planes.php 


Top fighter (most kills in) per Late War Tour ....


P-51D -  99 tours  - 33-35, 83-85, 89-95, 97, 102-116, 121-189

all this talk of Pony superiority or lack thereof. Doesn't this just mean that the pony is the most flown plane? This wasn't kills per sortie or K/D was it? Just said the most kills.

[bustr]

Placed a bunch of Yak 3 in the drone circle. Shot at them with many different fighters.

1. - The small size requires precise aiming.
2. - Dead 6 shooting eventually gains fuel leaks and maybe a radiator hit and possibly a wing or tail surface. Or just pour it on for a kill.
3. - Deflection shooting is either a one shot kill of the pilot or, pour it on watching parts fall off until it goes down.
4. - Snap shooting 90 off is very hit or miss. The tiny profile requires perfect timing to achieve an oil hit or killing of the pilot.
5. - The MK108 is hard to be precise with and there were a few moments I couldn't believe nothing happened when I hit the Yak 3. A second hit usually finished the job. The 262's 4 MK108  never had problems when I could hit the Yak 3.

Knowing all of the above now, and online with connection inconsistencies and other conditions in play. The Yak 3 is just very hard to hit online.

The Ki-43 and I16 being about the same size are much easier to destroy under all of those conditions and online. So can we get them upgraded to be like the Yak 3.......