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So I have a question re the A6M2 and the Ki-43.
« on: October 11, 2015, 11:22:18 PM »
Whats your opinion on which is the better fighter and why? I am interested.
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Re: So I have a question re the A6M2 and the Ki-43.
« Reply #1 on: October 12, 2015, 12:38:34 AM »
Against each other the ki43 in my opinion.
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Re: So I have a question re the A6M2 and the Ki-43.
« Reply #2 on: October 12, 2015, 02:11:10 AM »
Each other or vs the same Early War opponent like a P-40E, Hurricane, F4F ect.
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Re: So I have a question re the A6M2 and the Ki-43.
« Reply #3 on: October 12, 2015, 03:36:19 AM »
Against each other the Ki-43's better turning ability would make it favourite. Both aircraft can out-turn any other aircraft they come across and are broadly similar in performance terms, so the A6M2's cannons would make it the aircraft to have.

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Re: So I have a question re the A6M2 and the Ki-43.
« Reply #4 on: October 12, 2015, 01:22:04 PM »
Against each other the Ki-43's better turning ability would make it favourite. Both aircraft can out-turn any other aircraft they come across and are broadly similar in performance terms, so the A6M2's cannons would make it the aircraft to have.
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Re: So I have a question re the A6M2 and the Ki-43.
« Reply #5 on: October 12, 2015, 04:24:12 PM »
If you're a mediocre to good shot, the Ki43 by miles.  I flew the Ki43 for tour 181 earlier this year, and whenever I ran into Zeros in a 1v1 they always lost.  Same vs other earlier war fighters as mentioned.  Even in the MA vs all the late war rides, the Ki43 is incredibly survivable if you maintain good SA - it's very nimble and hard to hit, but if you do get hit, you're usually done, there is no "damage" like the Ki84 for example, not often anyway.  I had k/hour in or very close to double digits, and a k/d close to 4 in it, and I'm no super pilot, so if I can do it, anyone can.  It's the most underestimated plane in the game IMO, it amazed me how many guys would get into turn fights with it when they had me 1 on 1, or even 2 or 3 on 1. 

I think it's a combination of that it frustrates guys, plus it's known to be fragile, so folks go for shots, and then end up not getting them, and pressing that shot into a turn fight without realizing they are getting into one until it's too late. 

I'd love to see one of the super-shots in the game, probably Bruv119 I think, fly it for a tour.  I'd wager it'd be pretty impressive, and incredibly frustrating to those trying to kill him in it.

In an FSO type scenario where bombers might be targets, I'd reverse that opinion, and say the Zero by miles,  due to the extra speed, and absolutely the armament which is pretty decent for such a good turning fighter.  Spit5 should be in the discussion/mentioned in terms of the early war ride comparisons like the P40/F4F/Hurri were earlier too, as it'd be my 2nd choice next to the Ki43 if I was going to be fighting turn fights.

I do think though that the bottom line is that when facing any other high rate/radius fighter, the Ki43 will win in a 1 on 1 with the pilots being equal.  Just my opinion.
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Re: So I have a question re the A6M2 and the Ki-43.
« Reply #6 on: October 12, 2015, 05:12:29 PM »
The only thing the zero has is guns. The Ki is faster, turnier (it's a word!), and climbier.

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Re: So I have a question re the A6M2 and the Ki-43.
« Reply #7 on: October 13, 2015, 12:43:25 PM »
The only thing the zero has is guns. The Ki is faster, turnier (it's a word!), and climbier.

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Re: So I have a question re the A6M2 and the Ki-43.
« Reply #8 on: October 13, 2015, 05:43:54 PM »
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Re: So I have a question re the A6M2 and the Ki-43.
« Reply #9 on: October 13, 2015, 07:44:04 PM »
If the KI gets on the zekes six, It's over. The zeke may be able to BnZ the KI43 though.

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Re: So I have a question re the A6M2 and the Ki-43.
« Reply #10 on: October 13, 2015, 09:20:08 PM »
Seems to be a mix of opinions which I am not all that surprised by.
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Re: So I have a question re the A6M2 and the Ki-43.
« Reply #11 on: October 13, 2015, 09:36:12 PM »
The zeke may be able to BnZ the KI43 though.

How? The Ki is faster and climbs better.

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Re: So I have a question re the A6M2 and the Ki-43.
« Reply #12 on: October 13, 2015, 11:01:05 PM »
Keep in mind that the Ki-43-II we have in AH is a contemporary of the A6M3 and A6M5 and against those it gets a lot dicier for the Ki-43-II.  It is too bad we don't have the Ki-43-I and Ki-43-III.  The performance differences are greater than those of some other aircraft we have, such as the Bf109G-2 and Bf109G-6, P-51B and P-51D, P-38J and P-38L or Spitfire Mk VIII and Spitfire Mk XVI.
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Re: So I have a question re the A6M2 and the Ki-43.
« Reply #13 on: October 14, 2015, 12:25:53 AM »
If we're talking fights against its contemporaries, I think it's fair to say the P-40E has a better shot against a Ki-43 than a Zeke. It's not hopelessly outclassed against either, but it has to be flown to its strengths (BnZ) to be effective. I don't personally have much experience flying either plane against early war Hurri's, but unless the Hurri can build up a speed advantage it's going to have a very tough time against either plane. It's probably outmatched against a zeke, but a closer match against the Ki-43.


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Re: So I have a question re the A6M2 and the Ki-43.
« Reply #14 on: October 14, 2015, 01:05:27 AM »
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Keep in mind that the Ki-43-II we have in AH is a contemporary of the A6M3 and A6M5

Yes, I am asking re a SEA setup and so its a narrow focus question; A6M2 (specifically) vs Ki-43-II.
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