Windows 10 - The Force is rebooting me

[Skuzzy]

Today I met a couple who had decided to upgrade from 8.1 to 10. After two days of the upgrade just sitting there, saying "preparing to upgrade" they finally canceled it.

I have noted the Windows updater has been taking forever to show updates lately.  I wonder if the Windows servers are getting hammered with Windows 10 nagware?

[Chalenge]

There has to be at least a billion searches at the MS solutions site for fixes to everything going wrong on a daily basis.

[Pudgie]

Update since initial posting on 2-6-16:

To date the 2 registry workarounds to stop the "Get Win 10 Installed" nagware & block the Win 10 upgrade installer are still showing to hold up on my box.

To date:

MS tried to install the following Win 10 updates as follows:

KB3126587--tried 4 more times to install this update and failed to install all 4 tries
KB3126593--same as above
Next time I see these show up in Windows Updates I'm gonna hide them to stop the nonsense.

Our favorite MS Win 10 updates as follows:

KB3035583--tried 2 more times to install...install shows to be successful but has consistently been blocked.
KB2952664--same as above

All other MS updates that came thru did not have anything to do w\ Win 10 and so were installed as I warranted necessary.

So far, so good.

FYI.

 

[Bizman]

Today I advised a lady to roll back to 8.1 since she lost her Internet connection.

Someone said he's happy with 10 because it will find and fix errors. I wonder how it could download any fixes if it breaks the connections.

[Chalenge]

Oh, yeehaa! we have updates coming down today! Just great!

[Bizman]

Updates coming... or not! Today I visited a rare case, an elderly computer savvy lady who couldn't get the updates download because Windows 10 by default considers cellular connections as metered. Which they aren't here... She had already found the Microsoft instructions linked from the network settings, but there was no option to change the setting in the given location! So much for real time documentation... I finally found a site telling how to do it the professional way in the Command Prompt.

Not to mention the Tablet Mode can be a real PITA to figure out why you can't find the Desktop!

[Skuzzy]

Updates are done by regions now.  The strategy keeps Microsoft servers free.  They find a few fast connections in an area and then use them to copy the files to another computer (yes your Windows 10 boxes are servers now for Microsoft).  Once they get enough of those fast systems, they keep track of them and use them to deliver the updates to the region.

You never know when you are going to get updates, or from where.  Makes it nigh impossible to block the updates as they might come from a few hundred different IP addresses.

[Bizman]

Yup. Peer to peer... Need I mention that I set that function off - although I'm not sure at all that it would make any difference.

[Skuzzy]

Yup. Peer to peer... Need I mention that I set that function off - although I'm not sure at all that it would make any difference.

If you disable it, my understanding is it can take much longer to get updates (maybe not such a bad thing).

[715]

Stupid question: if Windows updates are going through someone else's computer, what's to stop that person from hacking into their own computer and inserting malware into the updates it serves up to others?

[Latrobe]

I'm glad Microsoft is using other peoples computers to send updates to me. Now my computer has less work to do.

[Bizman]

If you disable it, my understanding is it can take much longer to get updates (maybe not such a bad thing).

Having been told that Microsoft hasn't been widely known to utilize checksums for their downloads, I'd rather get them from one location only...

[Skuzzy]

I'm glad Microsoft is using other peoples computers to send updates to me. Now my computer has less work to do.

Uh no,...your computer has more to do as it will be used to distribute updates as well.  Getting them from a computer next door to you, or from Microsoft does not change any work your computer must do.  Delivering the updates to other computers adds to your computer work load.

[Latrobe]

unlikely that my PC can be used to send updates to other people since my router has a password on it. People do all the work on their PC and send the update files to me. 

[Estes]

As stated in another thread, I'm running Win 10 home premium (retail copy) and have updates of all kinds disabled and I haven't gotten any since I installed it. There could be a difference between the free upgrade version (always a catch) or, ya'know...PEBCAK.

p.s. that's not to say that people are not having issues with it I just think a lot of it could be cured with  people doing their research. Still a slippery slope microsoft is going down, I don't like it myself but it is what it is.