Bomber Unfriendly Targets / ENY Issues

[Electroman]

Hi All,

Now that things are settling in with regards to AH3 and the full changeover complete I wanted to bring up a particular beef or 2 with regards to bombers.

We have many dedicated bomber pilots that spend a lot of time and effort to work on high value targets (i.e. - strats). I can appreciate the fact that people were previously upset with 1 bomber making a run and taking a strat mostly down. It affects each country the same. However, the counter argument to this is that we bomber pilots often spend 1 - 1.5 hours for a single run to make this happen with high risk of being shot down as compared to the fighters that can pop up at a moments notice in 163's / 262's or anything else nearby or along our way taking away our efforts.

Additionally, now with the new resup time of 30 minutes makes it almost worthless to do long runs such as this, especially when you have an easy spawn / short hop into a strat to bring it back up again often before we even make our return trip and the strat is back at 100%. What is the point of bombing the strat then? It severely takes away from our efforts and from the game play of being a bomber pilot.

I don't believe it's fair to have it both ways...having bomber pilots fly long distance / time to takeout strats and resup time at 30 mins. Maybe a compromise of resup to 10 minutes per drop instead of the 4 mins it used to be...but not the 30 it is now.

Also with regards to ENY - this is becoming a real sor point with many. For example - a country has been brought down to 50% of their own bases and own neither of the other 2 countries. However we now have better numbers online yet get saddled with ENY's of 20 - 30. There seems to be a serious imbalance here. The ENY should take into consideration both % of your bases owned / % of other countries bases owned, AND online numbers for the 3 respective countries. This would be a much more fair way to balance with ENY. It is extremely frustrating and discouraging when you have 50% and can at best get up a low end fighter / tank / bomber with barely any payload when you own 50% of your own bases.

Appreciate the feedback from others and appreciate hiTech taking the above into consideration moving forward.

Cheers,
Elec1

[flyndung]

THE RUSSIAN'S NEVER HAD ENY .. JUST SAYING

[guncrasher]

THE RUSSIAN'S NEVER HAD ENY .. JUST SAYING

Russians would get executed for failing to complete a mission.

semp

[Chris79]

I agree with the 30 min resupply time. For small maps however, there is no reason for 1.5 hour trips to strats. You may want to reconsider using 30k B17's for intruder style B26's and TU2's. Try taking a set of Bats loaded with 3 1000kg bombs noe up until .75 sectors to target, climbing to 8k make one good pass and then RTB NOE. I've done that several time to AAA strat and knocked it down to 57%. Heck I even took Lancs NOE to city and knocked it down to 81%.

[JunkyII]

Wait you're telling me that you've seen strats being resupplied by the time you land bombers??? Can't be, I said the same thing in another thread and was told it's impossible.... 

I think resupply in all manners except resupply of a gv is way too fast...discourages combat for terroritory...

You bring up a good point about base percentage for ENY

[Lazerr]

Wait you're telling me that you've seen strats being resupplied by the time you land bombers??? Can't be, I said the same thing in another thread and was told it's impossible.... 

I think resupply in all manners except resupply of a gv is way too fast...discourages combat for terroritory...

You bring up a good point about base percentage for ENY

i think we are on the same mental radio.... i will still spank you 

[lunatic1]

well just quit bombing strats-lol

and you can forget ENY issue--HiTech is not going to change Eny

[Lusche]

Wait you're telling me that you've seen strats being resupplied by the time you land bombers??? Can't be, I said the same thing in another thread and was told it's impossible.... 

That discussion was back when we had AH2 and a 4 minute strat resupply. Now we have AH3 and 30 minutes.
Don't you think that's a difference?

[popeye]

Seems to me the 30 min resupply brings more balance to the strat game.

It might be that it takes a bomber pilot an hour to attack strats, but that one mission can affect many players for an extended time.

Besides, half of that hour was spent watching porn during climb out over friendly territory.   

[Randy1]

But why take these long strat runs when you could shut down a base with a fifteen minute climb and have a lot more fun. 

BTW OP were you one of  the bomb and bail players?  They were the worst of the lot.

[Shuffler]

If starts were up before you got back, take a more direct route. Obviously if it takes you an hour and a half to get there you are doing it all wrong.


As for base numbers affecting ENY, your idea would mean folks would just stop capturing bases sine it would make their ENY higher. The current setup using side numbers is designed to even sides. It works for some and not for others. The others I speak of are the ones married to one side for some odd reason. Those folks, at least the ones who require perk rides, suffer for the marriage..... Their choice.

[JunkyII]

That discussion was back when we had AH2 and a 4 minute strat resupply. Now we have AH3 and 30 minutes.
Don't you think that's a difference?

Still doesn't mean it was impossible, the OP has a great point about the flight time of buffs to target and RTB....in 30 minutes with a decent spawn to a strat or a base right next door....EVEN WITH 4 MIN resupp....its way too fast especially for the troop training facility.

If I'm going to play this as it was intended.....lets say I fly and F8 and kill troops at the spawn base of the field I wish to attack....Some tower general sees this and they say oh look they are probably going to X base...he resupps those troops while I'm RTB for my pork run and heading out to start working the base I'm setting up to take....1 guy can stop a base capture that way with little or no effort...how can you not think that needs to be nerfed?

[Shuffler]

Still doesn't mean it was impossible, the OP has a great point about the flight time of buffs to target and RTB....in 30 minutes with a decent spawn to a strat or a base right next door....EVEN WITH 4 MIN resupp....its way too fast especially for the troop training facility.

If I'm going to play this as it was intended.....lets say I fly and F8 and kill troops at the spawn base of the field I wish to attack....Some tower general sees this and they say oh look they are probably going to X base...he resupps those troops while I'm RTB for my pork run and heading out to start working the base I'm setting up to take....1 guy can stop a base capture that way with little or no effort...how can you not think that needs to be nerfed?

You mean so 1 guy can take a base? 

[JunkyII]

You mean so 1 guy can take a base? 

V bases yes but airfields with the larger towns now are almost impossible...thats a matter of nobody seeing it happen too like white flag a field with crusier guns then running an Lvt to maproom...I think shelling a town should make the map room flash

[Shuffler]

V bases yes but airfields with the larger towns now are almost impossible...thats a matter of nobody seeing it happen too like white flag a field with crusier guns then running an Lvt to maproom...I think shelling a town should make the map room flash

I used to think the same about ships shelling a base. I believe they have it right as it is now. The town can be taken down and maybe the guns. It still needs someone to up and check it for GVs. That sends the ALERT. Makes for some fun fast fights.