Can we please fix the water?

[hitech]

You are correct. They turned much better in real life. In game feels like the elevator is jammed at 10 degrees.

If you can stall the plane during a turn, then more elevator would not increase it's turn rate.

HiTech

[Shuffler]

and a P-38 didn't turn in WWII like they do in the game. :-)

Top aces in PTO flew 38s.

Check Bong, McGuire, MacDonald, and many more.

I did get to checkout the water last night. Looks better for visually judging alt when low in the game.. Now when the short loop is fixed it will be great.

[Dawger]

If you can stall the plane during a turn, then more elevator would not increase it's turn rate.

HiTech

I am not referring to its slow speed elevator performance.

And for an airplane with twin rudders with a very large amount of prop slipstream blowing on them, rudder performance is incredibly weak.
 

[Electroman]

I am not referring to its slow speed elevator performance.

And for an airplane with twin rudders with a very large amount of prop slipstream blowing on them, rudder performance is incredibly weak.

You've actually flown a P-38 in real life to know this? Just curious...

[hitech]

I am not referring to its slow speed elevator performance.

And for an airplane with twin rudders with a very large amount of prop slipstream blowing on them, rudder performance is incredibly weak.

I also am not speaking about slow speed but rather corning speed.

HiTech

[FLS]

I am not referring to its slow speed elevator performance.

And for an airplane with twin rudders with a very large amount of prop slipstream blowing on them, rudder performance is incredibly weak.

Counter-rotating slipstreams.

You also want to watch the AH rudders to see how slowly they move. It's easy to push your control to full deflection and back while the rudder only gets half deflected. It's useful to know how slowly you need to move your controller for the rudders to keep up.

[Dawger]

You've actually flown a P-38 in real life to know this? Just curious...

Unfortunately, no, I haven't managed to fly a P-38 in real life although I do have about 5,000 hours in a twin tail, twin engine airplane including some " unusual attitudes".

The rudder effectiveness in AH for many airplanes is seriously undermodeled in my opinion, not just the P-38.

However, my opinion is only based upon my 30 year career in aviation and very long time study of aerodynamics and aircraft performance and should be generally disregarded.

 

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Counter rotating props? Are you positing that they cancel each other out?

[JunkyII]

Counter-rotating slipstreams.

You also want to watch the AH rudders to see how slowly they move. It's easy to push your control to full deflection and back while the rudder only gets half deflected. It's useful to know how slowly you need to move your controller for the rudders to keep up.

wouldn't this be a bug then??? Shouldn't the rudder respond to EXACTLY what the input is because of the wires and pullys? Is it delayed to compensate for the actual resistance you would feel on normal pedals?

[Vraciu]

wouldn't this be a bug then??? Shouldn't the rudder respond to EXACTLY what the input is because of the wires and pullys? Is it delayed to compensate for the actual resistance you would feel on normal pedals?

One of my biggest hang ups with the FM in here.   It is a recipe for PIO.

If it isn't the FM then it is my stick settings.   Definitely drives me nuts.

[FLS]

wouldn't this be a bug then??? Shouldn't the rudder respond to EXACTLY what the input is because of the wires and pullys? Is it delayed to compensate for the actual resistance you would feel on normal pedals?

No no and yes.

The rudder response is delayed to simulate resistance from air pressure. So are your ailerons and elevator when you get fast enough.

[Shuffler]

For game playability with different hardware, we can also set dampening and dead zones. All of these will affect your experience in any game.


If you have a cheap spikey stick you will appreciate that.

[Vraciu]

No no and yes.

The rudder response is delayed to simulate resistance from air pressure. So are your ailerons and elevator when you get fast enough.

I've never flown an airplane that reacts this way.   The delay is excessive.

[FLS]

I've never flown an airplane that reacts this way.   The delay is excessive.

Have you flown with twin rudders? I imagine they have twice the resistance.

[Vraciu]

Have you flown with twin rudders? I imagine they have twice the resistance.

Yes I have. 

They don't behave this way.    Nor should they.   Two small tails or one tall one.   Samey same really.    Perhaps Colombo will weigh in since he has a ton of B-24 time.   It's bigger than what I've flown but I am sure he will have some useful insight.

No airplane in game feels right, frankly.   I've never had rudder and pitch responses lag like this in ANY airplane--and I have flown dozens and dozens of different types.

[Vudu15]

Fly a 110C4 it could always be worse....