Poll to follow up on ENY Question

[molybdenum]

There needs to be some sort of balancing mechanism, and ENY as it stands now imo is as good and things can get in that regard.
I usually fly bish and we seem to have more ENY issues than the other sides, but if I can't up my Lanc or wirb I figure out some other way to help my team and have fun using that. OR I switch sides and fly my fav for a side who has fun-to-fight-alongside guys on the roster at the moment. I simply don't get it why some ppl cry like babies if they can't get the ride they want when they want on the team they currently want to fly for. Having no ENY and a 2-1 advantage on your enemies would be disastrous for the game. The more numerous side would steamroll the map and anything in front of them if they were at all organized. Who would want to defend against that?
If the ride you want's such a big deal, switch teams and fly your fav for the team who's currently outnumbered. The main whiner with the pony fetish isn't on often enough to have a 6 hour side switch inconvenience him in the slightest. So what's the whining about? I don't get it.

[Vraciu]

^^^^ ENY at present is oftentimes a sledgehammer for a drywall nail.

[Shuffler]

I was on one day. Probably about 120 players on. We were 2 bases away from winning the war. Then ENY keeps getting higher and higher. Eventually we are at a 29+ eny. Our best chance was to up off the CV to capture the base. So we get about 15 - 20 people who I was desperately trying to get to capture the base. We can only use early war planes at this this point, planes that have no ord really to take down the Town. A6Ms worked alright, but it was no match. We were met with an equal # of opponents, all in EZ mode Spit16s and Niks, they just wipe out all the noobs. Couldn't keep the town down, couldn't get the ord from the planes we needed. This meant that after an hour of attacking, we still couldnt take it. A guy can only try so hard to coordinate his team and get people to participate. So, I realized then that the team with the most players, during low #s, really isn't going to be that much better if most players are inexperienced in harder planes and matched with enemies that can fly much better planes. If you have a squad that can capture bases and coordinate well, that's one thing, but restricting the planes during low #s really only gives one side good planes and the other crummy planes, which is lame when they just run away from you every time when you finally find someone to shoot at.

So it worked.

[Dundee]

A simple poll r.e. the ENY discussion below:

Who logs when ENY prevents them from flying their favorite plane? And who does not log but happily picks another plane?

I know this is opening oneself up to being flamed, but I'd like to really understand if ENY is discouraging players from flying while keeping the game fair for everyone. 

And for the record, I log when I can't ride my P-51D. It's just such a good turnfighter!

If I'm the only one logging, I'll fly a storch for an entire campaign for all to vulch.

Thanks -

Mutha

[JunkyII]

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P51D is the most popular ride, has many people who are dedicated strictly to it and not the only one people log if they can't fly it.

1 hour rule to stop eny discussions...bring back spy discussions from the 49ers (those were some kind of special)

[Randy1]

I was on one day. Probably about 120 players on. We were 2 bases away from winning the war.  . . .

I remember that day or maybe one just like it.  The bish needed two more rook bases to win when I logged in.  When I looked at the country numbers the bish had around 70 and the rooks in the thirties with knit about the same as the rooks.  It was the biggest imbalance I had ever seen by far.  Interesting though, the bish numbers dropped like a rock in the next half hour after failing to win the war.

[DmonSlyr]

ENY wasn't the reason why you couldn't take the base.

Without the experienced players, or enough people in that area to fight, it did have a difference. Although, maybe it was the map layout too. That Pig face map was always the hardest map to win. Was usually the only map that stayed up for the entire week. I hated this map the most, that's why I wanted to win it so badly when we had the chance.

So it worked.

Yeah, it worked to keep the map up for another 3 days (sigh). The eny cap only made more players log off, mad that they literally had no real planes to be effective in, and became discouraged because we had no chance at winning being so close to victory, since the other team could defend both bases we were trying to take easily with their Wirbles and Spit16s.

I remember that day or maybe one just like it.  The bish needed two more rook bases to win when I logged in.  When I looked at the country numbers the bish had around 70 and the rooks in the thirties with knit about the same as the rooks.  It was the biggest imbalance I had ever seen by far.  Interesting though, the bish numbers dropped like a rock in the next half hour after failing to win the war.

Yeah, I think we are talking about the same instance, it was on the galexy (pig face map) as I like to call it. Its kind of hard to capture a base with planes that only carry 1 250 bomb, and have 230 cannons, where you have to make it to the town first. Then you have to kill the VH, the tanks in the town, and make sure the town doesn't repop. It was just hopeless.

I honestly don't understand why perking these planes isn't the better option. At least it will give people an option to spend more perks, and a chance to win the war, if the #s imbalance is causing one team not to be able to win the map if they only have a couple of bases left. The teams defending those last bases are usually tough to beat if you only have 29+ eny airplanes + vehicles.

[Shuffler]

Yeah, it worked to keep the map up for another 3 days (sigh). The eny cap only made more players log off, mad that they literally had no real planes to be effective in, and became discouraged because we had no chance at winning being so close to victory, since the other team could defend both bases we were trying to take easily with their Wirbles and Spit16s.

Well if they are not capable of switching to even sides or flying other planes, then they did the only thing they knew how to.

They will forever be at the mercy of others for they do not take the time to improve their abilities.

[Biggamer]

my first option is the F6F when i cant fly that then the P38J then the B25H if i cant fly any of them i do about 2 GV sorties and realize why i like flying and then log off.

This is an option if you are in a bigger squad you can ask for some guy to log out just long enough for you to launch then they come back we do this often we have vent to communicate though if we are running mission the ground crew will pop out until the air crew can launch.  this is why zone ENY would not work because you can control that too if you get enough people willing to work with ya

[DmonSlyr]

Well if they are not capable of switching to even sides or flying other planes, then they did the only thing they knew how to.

They will forever be at the mercy of others for they do not take the time to improve their abilities.

But why would they want to switch sides after being so close to winning the war? What's the point of switching sides if the other team is doing a better job of defending and hoarding those last 2 bases? The fight will be better on the current team with more #s, even though it doesn't appear like that on paper. The eny got so bad that it pretty much stopped us from winning the war because we had no planes that could carry enough ord, and not enough Nats (a6ms) to bug off the La7s and Spit16s. No tanks that were worth a damn to kill tanks in the towns. I mean think about it. Just because your side has more #s, doesn't mean the fights are going to be hoarded, unfair, or imbalanced. It does depend on the size and layout of the map though.  Most of the time when I see ENY cap take into effect, I never see one team dominating the others. It's all about who you are fighting with and the collaboration of those players.

[Shuffler]

You can get many more perks by shooting planes down. If winning the war really did mean that much they would stay to fight.

[DmonSlyr]

You can get many more perks by shooting planes down. If winning the war really did mean that much they would stay to fight.

They tried to stay and fight. After about an hour and a half it was prolly close 2am at that point when most people weren't really taking anything seriously anymore. I just wanted to win the map because I hated it. Because of ENY, me nor my teamates could put up any kind of real effort. try taking down a town with a F4U1 and a6m3 after going through 4 La7s. it was a bust. It's a stupid arguement and prolly very rarely happens, but this is just something I dislike about eny capping, when I just wish the planes would get perked instead, or just be perked from the start already.

[Hartmann]

Yea I'll call you on your BS whenever I see it, your guys gang HO pick fly easy mode EVERYTHING ALL OF YOU complain about then you try to sit up on your pretty little horse....GTFO

Oh and you trying to trash talk me is like a 12 year old picking a fight with a grown man....you remember our G14 vs G14 run in??? Where you were flying it like the Pony pilots you HATE so much???None stop BnZ with big lazy timid High yo yos.... Then I called you out and made you go boom???? No??? Don't remember??? Should I get the film??? The actual action is only about 3 seconds long....me reversing and killing you

The FACT that you can take to the bank is you and your squad wants a fight as much as a weed wants to be sprayed by round up....yall fight from the advantage and when skill comes around...you take the HO way out aka EASY...come see me when you want a real fight, I'll be in the plane down low with 4-5 on him not HOing a single one of them.

Alright lunger let's do it"!

[JunkyII]

Alright lunger let's do it"!

Hartmann you non factor...you aint no daisey

[Hartmann]