Author Topic: Eliminate Default Scaled/Lagged Control Deflection  (Read 3522 times)

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Re: Eliminate Default Scaled/Lagged Control Deflection
« Reply #45 on: January 07, 2017, 04:12:46 PM »
I'm telling you that I can slam my rudders back and forth and there is no lag in the input responses at all in any plane I fly in the game.

Are you using pedals with that use potentiometers or a MARS type sensor?

Just so we're on the same page here. If you look at your rudder and push a pedal to full deflection the rudder goes to full deflection at the same time as the pedal? In my case, and Vraciu's, the rudder doesn't keep up but the amount of lag varies with aircraft. There is no lag in the rudder starting to move, it just can't move as fast as the game controller can.


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Re: Eliminate Default Scaled/Lagged Control Deflection
« Reply #46 on: January 07, 2017, 04:31:29 PM »
Just so we're on the same page here. If you look at your rudder and push a pedal to full deflection the rudder goes to full deflection at the same time as the pedal? In my case, and Vraciu's, the rudder doesn't keep up but the amount of lag varies with aircraft. There is no lag in the rudder starting to move, it just can't move as fast as the game controller can.

Yes.  I'll make a recording of it the next time I get online. 

What kind of pedals are you using?  CH?
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Re: Eliminate Default Scaled/Lagged Control Deflection
« Reply #47 on: January 07, 2017, 05:00:36 PM »
I don't see how it can be the controller. In the advanced controller setup there's no lag between pedal movement and raw input. I map the pedals to the elevator and there's no lag. I map the joystick to the rudder and the rudder trails the stick if I move it quickly.

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Re: Eliminate Default Scaled/Lagged Control Deflection
« Reply #48 on: January 07, 2017, 05:04:05 PM »
I'm telling you that I can slam my rudders back and forth and there is no lag in the input responses at all in any plane I fly in the game.

Are you using pedals with that use potentiometers or a MARS type sensor?

No, sir. 

I will film it (if I can) just to be sure we are speaking the same language. 

I'm using a twisty stick.   The settings screen for raw/scaled is not identical to the rudder response.

I will be back to my machine in a couple days.   I can also try another one and see if it behaves the same way.
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Re: Eliminate Default Scaled/Lagged Control Deflection
« Reply #49 on: January 07, 2017, 06:43:31 PM »
Yes.  I'll make a recording of it the next time I get online. 

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I suspect you just move your pedals at a reasonable speed and the rudder can keep up.   :D

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Re: Eliminate Default Scaled/Lagged Control Deflection
« Reply #50 on: January 07, 2017, 06:50:03 PM »
I suspect you just move your pedals at a reasonable speed and the rudder can keep up.   :D

Define reasonable?

I can move the pedals on any airplane with conventional controls as fast as humanly possible and they keep up.   Certainly that's the case in the many dozens I've flown and I see no reason why the Mustang would be different.

In here neutral to full throw is lagged in rudder ONLY.    Elevator and aileron keep up just fine.   I am hardly excessive in speed though I've tried it just to see.  Aileron and elevator keep up.   
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Re: Eliminate Default Scaled/Lagged Control Deflection
« Reply #51 on: January 07, 2017, 06:57:31 PM »
Define reasonable?

I can move the pedals on any airplane as fast as humanly possible and they keep up.

In here neutral to full throw is lagged in rudder ONLY.    Elevator and rudder keep up just fine.

damn you have flown all the airplanes?  that must be some kind of record.


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Re: Eliminate Default Scaled/Lagged Control Deflection
« Reply #52 on: January 07, 2017, 07:02:23 PM »
Define reasonable?

I can move the pedals on any airplane with conventional controls as fast as humanly possible and they keep up.   Certainly that's the case in the many dozens I've flown any way and I see no reason why the Mustang would be different.

In here neutral to full throw is lagged in rudder ONLY.    Elevator and aileron keep up just fine.   I am hardly excessive in speed though I've tried it just to see.  Aileron and elevator keep up.

Get the quote right, Semp. 

damn you have flown all the airplanes?  that must be some kind of record.


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Re: Eliminate Default Scaled/Lagged Control Deflection
« Reply #53 on: January 07, 2017, 07:07:39 PM »
What u didn't know Aachoo has flown faster...bailed out higher... Hit the water harder and come up dryer than anyone whos crapped behind a pair of flight boots...
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Re: Eliminate Default Scaled/Lagged Control Deflection
« Reply #54 on: January 07, 2017, 07:09:46 PM »
What u didn't know Aachoo has flown faster...bailed out higher... Hit the water harder and come up dryer than anyone whos crapped behind a pair of flight boots...


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Re: Eliminate Default Scaled/Lagged Control Deflection
« Reply #55 on: January 07, 2017, 07:36:53 PM »
Define reasonable?

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...as much as is appropriate or fair; moderate.

Note it was a comment for Ack-Ack that could explain his different experience.

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Re: Eliminate Default Scaled/Lagged Control Deflection
« Reply #56 on: January 07, 2017, 07:40:10 PM »
...as much as is appropriate or fair; moderate.

Note it was a comment for Ack-Ack that could explain his different experience.

I asked him if he could slam them around.  He claims he can. 

You have noted a difference between the 51 and the RV. 

Which is it?  :headscratch:
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Re: Eliminate Default Scaled/Lagged Control Deflection
« Reply #57 on: January 07, 2017, 08:05:47 PM »
Get the quote right, Semp. 

How many different planes have YOU flown?

well according to you you have flown every single airplane and they all respond right away except in here.  that was your quote.

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edit: and you changed your quote after I posted it.  so make up your mind.

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Re: Eliminate Default Scaled/Lagged Control Deflection
« Reply #58 on: January 08, 2017, 03:18:27 AM »
I asked him if he could slam them around.  He claims he can. 

You have noted a difference between the 51 and the RV. 

Which is it?  :headscratch:

You have a better theory for his different experience?

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Re: Eliminate Default Scaled/Lagged Control Deflection
« Reply #59 on: January 08, 2017, 10:09:37 AM »
You have a better theory for his different experience?

I think there's a coded lag.   At least four of us are seeing it.  So what you said above must be it.
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