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Re: maybe the three country system needs an adjustment
« Reply #165 on: February 21, 2017, 11:43:47 AM »
In the mornings for me Central time.. Euro prime time... the numbers are already low and people stay logged on over night and ruin the fun for some countries. A lower side switch time ATLEAST during low numbers would be so beneficial for the players looking for a fight.
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Re: maybe the three country system needs an adjustment
« Reply #166 on: February 21, 2017, 01:38:14 PM »
Now I see why you have the switch time so long, it's not to balance numbers in the short term.  Still, with the numbers wildly fluctuating throughout the day, there is no way (for us) to confirm the long term numbers are balanced.
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Re: maybe the three country system needs an adjustment
« Reply #167 on: February 21, 2017, 01:44:42 PM »
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Re: maybe the three country system needs an adjustment
« Reply #168 on: February 21, 2017, 01:46:36 PM »
LOL Lusche.

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Re: maybe the three country system needs an adjustment
« Reply #169 on: February 21, 2017, 01:46:55 PM »
I can just see Lusche now...gimme, gimme, gimme hahahaa   ( damn it...too slow   hahahaha)
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Re: maybe the three country system needs an adjustment
« Reply #170 on: February 21, 2017, 02:01:11 PM »
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Re: maybe the three country system needs an adjustment
« Reply #171 on: February 21, 2017, 02:02:37 PM »
LOL Lusche.

I assume Rooks are gold?

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Re: maybe the three country system needs an adjustment
« Reply #172 on: February 21, 2017, 02:57:32 PM »
The graph for a week shows an interesting trend. Without knowing more an inference could be made, one or two countries tend to respond to peak population spikes from one of the three countries by citizens logging out. Who wants to take an arse whipping at the hands of an obvious superior numbered ability to attack or defend?

So determining some of this, probably by logging into the arena and see if the spikes translate into the times a country pulls together into a hoard to squat on one of the other countries would be valid. While seeing if in those cases where the second country logged out, if that visually on the map, they couldn't get into any real fights due to the hoard concentrated on the other front.

Then you are back to the player on the ground common wisdom about this era of the Aces High game. No one wants to fight unless they have all of the odds in their favor. Might be why missions no longer happen and why game play is more stagnant. If you have a large part of the community made up of veterans of even the past 5 years, they can tell as individuals by experience if it's worth investing their time into the current read of the CBM and country status. Missions are out then before they are born. There is no magic saddling up with three guys even in 262 and defeating a hoard of 20 in late war rides. Either they will snack on your expensive 262's or go elsewhere on the map to make use of their superior numbers and rides under better conditions. Still it looks like the real strategy is to log off and try another day because the odds are your country will have at least one good day a week.

In it's simplest analysis of the graph, you are looking at the personality of the majority community "who doesn't come to these forums" as it is in today's Aces High 3. But, you are willing to project on them your personality and what makes you happy for this game when you come up with solutions to throw at Hitech. And Hitech is stuck making sense of cold data pulled real time from the arenas as to the nature of that majority community who never comes in here and tells everyone they have the magic solution to all of the game's problems.

The majority who never comes in here don't fly KOTH, go to the DA, or ever wants a fair fight in the MA. They don't want to loose or make too large of a sacrifice for their rewards. So Hitech is stuck making them happy based on that personality which dominates AH3 right now. The rest of you are like asking world class race car drivers to design a four cylinder go to the market car 3 days a week for blue haired little old ladies. No balance to reality which Hitech has to deal with.   
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Re: maybe the three country system needs an adjustment
« Reply #173 on: February 21, 2017, 04:13:19 PM »
Here is a weeks worth.

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Re: maybe the three country system needs an adjustment
« Reply #174 on: February 21, 2017, 04:18:33 PM »
Bustr: Population can not be determined from those charts, They are simply a % in each country. So if all countries are even all lines would b a 0.33.

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Re: maybe the three country system needs an adjustment
« Reply #175 on: February 21, 2017, 04:20:36 PM »
Is that hotlinked from the NSA?  And what is "Column E".  :noid

Thatls the squeak of a time I have with open office calc making charts, especially with time as a label.

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Re: maybe the three country system needs an adjustment
« Reply #176 on: February 21, 2017, 04:58:00 PM »
Since you are here posting Hitech what's your opinion on Auto balancing or a lower side switch timer during low numbers I.E. early in the AM.
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Re: maybe the three country system needs an adjustment
« Reply #177 on: February 21, 2017, 07:15:25 PM »
Since you are here posting Hitech what's your opinion on Auto balancing or a lower side switch timer during low numbers I.E. early in the AM.

Or changing the ENY ramp up (reduce/eliminate) in the AM when numbers are lower to encourage people to stay on.
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Re: maybe the three country system needs an adjustment
« Reply #178 on: February 21, 2017, 08:43:43 PM »
The graph for a week shows an interesting trend. Without knowing more an inference could be made, one or two countries tend to respond to peak population spikes from one of the three countries by citizens logging out. Who wants to take an arse whipping at the hands of an obvious superior numbered ability to attack or defend?

So determining some of this, probably by logging into the arena and see if the spikes translate into the times a country pulls together into a hoard to squat on one of the other countries would be valid. While seeing if in those cases where the second country logged out, if that visually on the map, they couldn't get into any real fights due to the hoard concentrated on the other front.

Then you are back to the player on the ground common wisdom about this era of the Aces High game. No one wants to fight unless they have all of the odds in their favor. Might be why missions no longer happen and why game play is more stagnant. If you have a large part of the community made up of veterans of even the past 5 years, they can tell as individuals by experience if it's worth investing their time into the current read of the CBM and country status. Missions are out then before they are born. There is no magic saddling up with three guys even in 262 and defeating a hoard of 20 in late war rides. Either they will snack on your expensive 262's or go elsewhere on the map to make use of their superior numbers and rides under better conditions. Still it looks like the real strategy is to log off and try another day because the odds are your country will have at least one good day a week.

In it's simplest analysis of the graph, you are looking at the personality of the majority community "who doesn't come to these forums" as it is in today's Aces High 3. But, you are willing to project on them your personality and what makes you happy for this game when you come up with solutions to throw at Hitech. And Hitech is stuck making sense of cold data pulled real time from the arenas as to the nature of that majority community who never comes in here and tells everyone they have the magic solution to all of the game's problems.

The majority who never comes in here don't fly KOTH, go to the DA, or ever wants a fair fight in the MA. They don't want to loose or make too large of a sacrifice for their rewards. So Hitech is stuck making them happy based on that personality which dominates AH3 right now. The rest of you are like asking world class race car drivers to design a four cylinder go to the market car 3 days a week for blue haired little old ladies. No balance to reality which Hitech has to deal with.
Bustr, You may have not been online when I asked about 13 members of our squad (who don't come to the bbs) whether or not they thought ENY needed to be changed or tweaked....An overwhelming majority said it was and the others said it doesn't matter....to you it obviously doesn't matter but what could go wrong to your gameplay if it was changed? What would go wrong to others gameplay if it were changed? (The ones who think ENY is fine)

They probably would still go on not noticing it while a pretty large number (judging by posts made here and the amount of players in our squad who think it's broke....which is a decent size poll of the community) would have less problems with it....you act as if it's only a handful who have a problem with it which is just insane to think that way....

Hitech,
Do weeks look similar to each other or are they just as random? (Think the only for sure thing you can see in there is the FSO spikes)
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Re: maybe the three country system needs an adjustment
« Reply #179 on: February 21, 2017, 08:50:24 PM »
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Heh.  This should be good for a month's worth of charts.

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