Penalty For Bomb And Bail

[Zygote404]

I have bailed many a bomber just because I got bored.  the fighter took 20+ minutes at least to get into position by then I just said I dont have the time.  I would rather be somewhere else.


semp

Fly lower.  It is annoying to up, find buffs at 35k, climb all the way up and the guy bails.  If you get bored we're also getting bored.

Of course another solution would be making bombing from the stratosphere more difficult. 

[JimmyC]

Weighty comment!

[guncrasher]

Fly lower.  It is annoying to up, find buffs at 35k, climb all the way up and the guy bails.  If you get bored we're also getting bored.

Of course another solution would be making bombing from the stratosphere more difficult.

ask anybody in my squad, i dont fly higher than 10k on buffs maybe 15.  but never above 20 unless in fso.


semp

[lunatic1]

If you don't recognize "poor sportsmanship" by now well.............

Because to me that's what this is all about.  Yes it's a game, but in every game there is "playing within the rules" and then there is "playing within the rules with good sportsmanship".



As an example:

The rules say "If you kick a guy in the nads and do not get caught there is no penalty"



Sportsmanship says "Don't kick a guy in the nads"

   Sooooooo it's Good Sportsmanship for the bomber pilot to sit there and let you kill his bombers, nawwww I don't think so.

never read anything in the rules that said the bomber pilots can't or shouldn't bail when they want to.

[lunatic1]

I have an Idea.

DON'T CHASE BOMBERS AND YOU WON'T GET DISAPPOINTED.

[Zoney]

   Sooooooo it's Good Sportsmanship for the bomber pilot to sit there and let you kill his bombers, nawwww I don't think so.     
   I was talking about what is poor sportsmanship sir, again,
 if you cannot see it, if you can't feel what is right, or you just disagree what is right, that is understandable and we will differ on this subject.



never read anything in the rules that said the bomber pilots can't or shouldn't bail when they want to.

I wasn't talking about the rules sir, I was talking about sportsmanship

[Zener]

I agree with you, Zoney regarding the sportsmanship aspect of the game.  You have enough Zener pelts (and 91st BG pelts) on your wall to know that's not how we roll.  I believe there will always be those who will bail just as with fighters you'll always have that one speedy plane happy to hang around to B&Z those taking off and landing but hauls it outta there with warp engines engaged soon as anything co-alt or higher shows up.  I don't know why they do it but they do, and bailing bomber pilots fall into the same category imho.

The only times I can think of when bailing seems right is when the main plane in the formation is so damaged it puts the formation at greater risk from the slower speed/reduced ability to hold course.  But that's only bailing from one plane, not all.

I will sometimes bail in a goon if doing resupp to something vital, it's a long flight, and we need it back asap so more runs are needed.  I can't remember ever doing that with an enemy plane anywhere close.

[Zoney]

<S> Zener and the 91st, whom add to our wonderful gaming experience.

[Vraciu]

   Sooooooo it's Good Sportsmanship for the bomber pilot to sit there and let you kill his bombers, nawwww I don't think so.

never read anything in the rules that said the bomber pilots can't or shouldn't bail when they want to.

The bomber pilot knew the risks.   He should suffer the consequences for his cowardice if he bails at the sight of opposition.   Or he can shoot back.   It's not like bombers are helpless like Goons.

Haven't played in over a week precisely because of things like this--and arenas without targets are self-defeating.

 

[Hungry]

It just took him a long time to get alt and get there he doesn't want spend the time getting all the way back, its reality, award the kills to those closest if he bails and be done with it

[atlau]

It just took him a long time to get alt and get there he doesn't want spend the time getting all the way back, its reality, award the kills to those closest if he bails and be done with it

Well put.

[haggerty]

Unfortunately Lunatic's advice to let bombers have free reign is the best bet at the moment, I quit bothering trying to intercept bombers(my favorite thing to do) and even left the game for awhile because more often than not they will bail as soon as they see your dot if they've already hit the primary target. 
It is however the wrong answer, bailers should face a penalty, just because you paid $15 doesn't mean you should have so much troll power over the others that paid $15.  Play with some sportsmanship, you aren't giving away free kills if you get intercepted, its actually pretty difficult to kill all 3 bombers if you have any sort of skill.  Giving proxies to the closest interceptor wont make bomb and bailers quit the game.  What's worse is their reasoning is usually so they can up again right away to hit the same target, so in effect they are getting twice the ords on a target because the game allows it to happen.  If you are paying $15 to bomb targets, take some pride in your bombing and land the damage.

[icepac]

I see plenty of guys landing 3 kills along with damage from a high altitude bomb run.

The guys who bail simply lack the skill to deal with an interceptor.

Yes, they are pathetic and by bailing they force their lowest common denominator experience onto the rest of the arena.

[Zimme83]

As said before: even the average bomber guy have a good chance of winning a duel with a fighter. And when it comes to the great bomber guys the odds is certainly against the fighter..

[atlau]

I have another frustration where i completed my bomb run and dont feel like flying back and would bail *except* that someone finally upped to intercept so i decide to wait for him to attack so we can at least duke it out... but rather than crawl up my low 6  he flies smart and grabs another 5k over my buffs and now i have to spend another 10 minutes waiting for him to finally attack!