How are the numbers now?

[Wiley]

A whine has been recorded. The game .... is. Logging off apparently is 'the answer' ..... for some. For me, I log (on or off) because of life's demands or lack of. Time to whine on the AHBBS is time I can best spend elsewhere. Faux macho teardrops never impressed me. 

Yup.  But my point is it's not as simple as "just do".  If you want to interact with enemy aircraft in a way that doesn't involve a virtually undefended green horde or them dragging you repeatedly through their ack, there are times when that is simply not an option.

Wiley.

[Arlo]

Yup.  But my point is it's not as simple as "just do".  If you want to interact with enemy aircraft in a way that doesn't involve a virtually undefended green horde or them dragging you repeatedly through their ack, there are times when that is simply not an option.

Wiley.

It's all just an excuse to whine. The game is never going to be strictly on your terms 100% of the time (especially when your terms have a thousand reasons to complain incorporated).

Caveats to support a 'game broken' whine:

1) The other guy(s) drag me through their ack.
2) But ... I'd have to change sides.
3) I only use part of the game. Those players are using parts I don't like/don't do well in.
4) They sunk my CV.
5) I don't get enough salutes.

Phfffft. Just do. Or don't. Or .... you can just bore the rest of us with all the times you're bored and not having fun in AH and give us all your expert advice on how to 'fix' things before the sky falls (like the 'new' guy).

[Wiley]

It's all just an excuse to whine. The game is never going to be strictly on your terms 100% of the time (especially when your terms have a thousand reasons to complain incorporated).

Caveats to support a 'game broken' whine:

1) The other guy(s) drag me through their ack.
2) But ... I'd have to change sides.
3) I only use part of the game. Those players are using parts I don't like/don't do well in.
4) They sunk my CV.
5) I don't get enough salutes.

Phfffft. Just do. Or don't. Or .... you can just bore the rest of us with all the times you're bored and not having fun in AH and give us all your expert advice on how to 'fix' things before the sky falls (like the 'new' guy).

At the end of the day it just comes down to numbers.  Below a certain threshold, people stop flying aircraft.  For some people no enemy aircraft means no game.  The guys that propose whatever fix they think will bring the numbers up just want enemies to work against.

But the whole "just go toolshed or jump in a GV" crap is not a solution for many.  Many of them have voted with their feet.  Others have stuck around frustrated.

During east coast primetime the game generally supports pretty much everybody, but outside of that time, the arena is not so good.

Wiley.

[Lazerr]

Pretty obvious three countries speads players too thin for the games average population.

[Slate]

Pretty obvious three countries speads players too thin for the games average population.

 It may be the Maps are too large, Flying in WW1 with 3 countries and 15 players is a blast. 

[Lusche]

It may be the Maps are too large, Flying in WW1 with 3 countries and 15 players is a blast. 

And that's why WW1 is such a well populated place 

[FLS]

Pretty obvious three countries speads players too thin for the games average population.

No it's not obvious. Dividing the player group into 3 does not spread them out. It just creates 3 groups.

Big maps allow the players to spread out. If you had a big 2 country map they could still spread out.

You might want the maps to be smaller but if 2 people looking for a fight can't find one they're not looking in the right place.

[FLS]

And that's why WW1 is such a well populated place 

I find that sitting in the WW1 arena for a few minutes will often get another player to join. Then it's fun fights until the pickers show up.

[Vraciu]

Pretty obvious three countries speads players too thin for the games average population.

Yep.

[hitech]

3 countries makes it easier to find a fight, You have 2 out of 3 people to fight with 3 countries vs 1 out of 2  people to fight with 2 counties.

Think of the extreme, if each player was a country do you think it would be easier or harder to find a fight then 2 countries?


HiTech

[ACE]

3 countries makes it easier to find a fight, You have 2 out of 3 people to fight with 3 countries vs 1 out of 2  people to fight with 2 counties.

Think of the extreme, if each player was a country do you think it would be easier or harder to find a fight then 2 countries?


HiTech

How about you try something different?  Just see what happens for a week? What's it gonna hurt? We do this all the time in our business to grow and see where we can adapt.

Try 2 countries for a week or so. Try the limited plane set for a week. Get some data then make a decision rather than leaving it "stale".

[Lazerr]

3 countries makes it easier to find a fight, You have 2 out of 3 people to fight with 3 countries vs 1 out of 2  people to fight with 2 counties.

Think of the extreme, if each player was a country do you think it would be easier or harder to find a fight then 2 countries?


HiTech

Three countries spreads it out.  To often its two teams beating one like a seal.  What should I do then.. go shoot some acks guns and hope a fight kicks up?  I cant go start taking the other countries bases.. the game mechanics dont allow it.  I could try and beg for help on country to start fighting the other front.. will they come?  Probably not.. they have a nice hoard assembled and are rolling bases.  Id rather have 1 in two odds of winning a jackpot than 1 in 3.

[Vraciu]

3 countries makes it easier to find a fight, You have 2 out of 3 people to fight with 3 countries vs 1 out of 2  people to fight with 2 counties.

Think of the extreme, if each player was a country do you think it would be easier or harder to find a fight then 2 countries?


HiTech

I think with two countries you'll drive the action closer.   The front will always be on your country--and theirs--unlike how it happens sometimes now.  Example: Knits and Bish fighting on their side of the map and nothing happening on the Rook side.

60 players split three ways vs two.   Seems to me you would concentrate the action.

When numbers recover you could always go back to three countries.   

[Vraciu]

How about you try something different?  Just see what happens for a week? What's it gonna hurt? We do this all the time in our business to grow and see where we can adapt.

Try 2 countries for a week or so. Try the limited plane set for a week. Get some data then make a decision rather than leaving it "stale".

Would be nice.  Might cause some chaos initially but I think that would work itself out.

[hitech]

How about you try something different?  Just see what happens for a week? What's it gonna hurt? We do this all the time in our business to grow and see where we can adapt.

Try 2 countries for a week or so. Try the limited plane set for a week. Get some data then make a decision rather than leaving it "stale".

Hmm you believe I don't have data, I have tried 2 countries previously. Limited plane set, yep tried that also.

What's it gonna hurt?

Lots and lots of pissed off customers.

HiTech