Your deer analogy doesn't work here tho. In the case of the deer and the hunter the deer is hiding to SAVE ITS LIFE!. We on the other hand are playing a game which by the way DEPENDS on players interacting WITH EACH OTHER.
Your game in a GV is to get to where your going and kill buildings or other players. My game, being an opponent is to find you and stop you from doing that. By sitting under a tree for hours and AVOIDING all interaction I believe your going against the principles of the game.
After all if that is your game, save your self some money and play off line. Nobody will ever kill you and you can roll base after base all by yourself.
First somebody (
Fugitive) points out Gving is entry level game play, only requiring knowledge of a few key strokes and the use of a mouse. Yet you get hammered time and time again? Then comes the argument that players get tired of being shot, and leave the game because of it . . blah blah blah. Now you say GV's don't really participate in the principles of the game? Which is it? As with ACM, there is an art and a significant learning curve to be an effective GV'er. Why call out the ground game only? If you don't like the fact that you cant bomb a GV at will - without putting forth some effort to find them, then your suggestion of finding something to do in the offline arena sounds like a plan.
Fly in a real airplane and try to find any vehicle sitting under a group of trees from a horizontal distance of 3-4 miles at an altitude of 5,000-10,000ft doing 230 kts. Possible? Maybe, but more likely not. IMHO the icon range is just about right. Those that know how to find GVs do, and those that don't know how should learn.
To all those GVs Sitting and Hiding. . . . Where can I find them? How many GVs are there? How many "hours" do they sit?. . . lol There are so many comments about GVs sitting for "hours". . . . lol This sounds like a lot of bloated jibber jabber - I would love to see the stats…….Cuz I do not see the same thing.
CYBRO is the only player I know that spends 43 hours a day sitting in a hangar or just off base, making it flash after it has been captured. And because he does this he is ignored by everybody. There is no harm, no foul, and I have never heard anybody quit the game because of it or him.
Kilroy sat for 8hrs? Kilroy is also one guy that will keep upping and attack again & again. There are days that you need to bring a strong constitution just to fend him off. On the flip side there is 715B, a player that strategically places himself in a position to thwart attacks. He is often well hidden, exercises the patience of a saint, and is very lethal. Fighting either player is extremely challenging combat yet they use different approaches, (and certainly not the same one all the time). Any tactic that makes you take action directly contributes to combat. On the ground (barring a camp) if you don't understand the difference of when to move, and when to wait, one will often find themselves on the wrong side of a tank shell.
Nobody can tell a flyer how high to fly, what direction to head, which base to bomb, what con to attack. The reality is they get to choose whether to participate its
the individuals choice. It’s funny that so many feel the need to tell GVers how to play the ground game the way they think it should be played.
GV's sitting for hours & hours or are we waiting out a bombt**d? Expecting a GV to continue moving while a bombt**d is overhead is equivalent to me telling you to fly directly into the blazing gunfire of a HO, Whirble, or a tail gunner and expecting you not to take any defensive action. Logic, and common sense necessitates that I shut down and hide. If you choose to bomb GV's, then one shouldn't complain about how long it takes to find us. You are disrupting our base attack, not vice versa. I don't complain about your bomb attack, why should you complain about my defense?
Sitting while waiting for the bombt**d to go away doesn't promote combat?? Ok. . . . Then try not bombing GVs if the issue of promoting combat is so important. I like getting bombed about as much as you like getting camped, HOed, ganged, or 88ed. Its absurd to ask anybody to not act in a manner of self preservation when under attack. If you don't think so, start using the C47 in your next dogfight and let us know how it works out. Then maybe I'll consider keeping my tank moving when being targeted by your bombs.
W/ regards to GV radar. . . . Two issues I have experienced over the last few days with GV radar is;
One it provides an unfair advantage to those already familiar with the ground game and helps those players to find and shoot others faster, exacerbating the "hammering and driving players away" argument. (And no I dont want to drive players away. . .)
Second I notice aircraft and GVs alike fly & move around me (I am speculating here) and act like they are paying more attention to the radar than looking outside. This isnt a very far fetched idea considering the argument of technology inside aircraft today and pilots disregarding the number rule of flying -Which is to
Fly the airplane first! I have been observing both air & ground vehicles maneuvering as if they are trying to hone in on the enemy. The problem is they are watching the map and not the terrain. Boom.... !
Of course you could also chalk this one up to the learning curve.
The Green/ Red End Sortie light already provides the most pertinent information that a GV is in the area without pointing out its direction. Vehicle sound provides the rest of that information. The Green light tells me nobody is around and to move elsewhere for a battle. The Red light tells me there is a visitor and its time to sweep the welcome mat off.
