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Re: Ways of reading skill
« Reply #90 on: November 19, 2017, 07:28:05 PM »
In fairness you should reveal the score when you DA'ed him...

His low K/D was primarily due to the fact he was not afraid to engage, regardless of the odds.   He would take on a horde by himself all the time.   

Yeah, he only scored when he could out rope on the merge...I didn't say he was bad 1v1, but still had much to learn in the slow fight.

Skyyr was not very patient and that was the main reason he died a lot flying the fastest planes in the game. He had a hard time flying midwar planes in the MA because he had a hard time escaping the fight if he couldn't extend away.
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« Reply #91 on: November 19, 2017, 09:22:19 PM »
Yeah, he only scored when he could out rope on the merge...I didn't say he was bad 1v1, but still had much to learn in the slow fight.

Skyyr was not very patient and that was the main reason he died a lot flying the fastest planes in the game. He had a hard time flying midwar planes in the MA because he had a hard time escaping the fight if he couldn't extend away.

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Re: Ways of reading skill
« Reply #92 on: November 19, 2017, 09:59:40 PM »
I have terrible aim any of my success comes from winning the fight.
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« Reply #93 on: November 20, 2017, 12:18:16 AM »
I think it really takes a show of skill to fly planes that simply cannot run away from any other plane in the MA. Flying the fastest planes never teaches defensive maneuvers and counter evasive tactics. Sure, E fighting and BnZ does take skill in its own regard, but it limits those abilities of being able to fight when enemies are above you. Flying mid war or slower aircraft in MA generally requires a bit more undertsanding of the game and SA, and will also help you become a better pilot overall.

Yes but the problem with flying the slower planes is you cant catch the faster planes that run away.
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« Reply #94 on: November 20, 2017, 12:26:07 AM »
I wish I could figure out the aim thing.  I get terrible nose bounce.
I have the same issues. there were LOTS of times I should have had kills on Skyyr  and many others but but my aim. This becomes a problem when fighting the better top tier players because you eitehr often dont get a second chance. or the shot you get is one where either you make the shot and win. Or miss the shot and end up at a disadvantage in which case you die. Skyyr used to make the shots on the latter.
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Either that or HTC somehow changed the trajectory or dummied down the D9s 20 mil
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« Reply #95 on: November 20, 2017, 12:30:12 AM »
While I think skyyr was excellent in the E game, and was decent in 1v1s because of his merge. He hid behind very fast planes in the MA: 190D, La7, and was weak defensively in the MA and 1v1. He could not land many kills in midwar planes and would get picked a lot even in faster planes. He flew a lot of sorties in very fast planes with a rather low K/D. To me skyyr did prove why the 190D is such a nuisance. Flying the fastest planes in the game does give you a nice advantage in the MA.

While he did occasionally fly the D-9 he mostly flew the 152. Then the La7 as his primary rides. Not the D-9
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Re: Ways of reading skill
« Reply #96 on: November 20, 2017, 12:40:59 AM »
Either that or HTC somehow changed the trajectory or dummied down the D9s 20 mil

Are you flying with the new default forward view, looking down? The view of the gun sight is slightly skewed compared to the old default view where it was centered.

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« Reply #97 on: November 20, 2017, 01:44:03 AM »
While he did occasionally fly the D-9 he mostly flew the 152. Then the La7 as his primary rides. Not the D-9
As StarFox he flew the 152 but as Skyyr he was nothing but the Dora or LA7 for the most part.
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Re: Ways of reading skill
« Reply #98 on: November 20, 2017, 04:29:32 AM »
Some veteran squad's  have 20-30k perkies per person . Pipz had close to 50k ...

Flying 262 in squad formations would, like Bozon said, ruin the MA.

At east half of LD fly EN16+ planes as standard.




Perk price does  :old:

You can really tear quickly through tens of thousands of perks when you are really doing this for ' many tours.' I once did a Me 262 tour like that, and it did cost me around 4000 perks.
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« Reply #99 on: November 20, 2017, 04:46:25 AM »
Some veteran squad's  have 20-30k perkies per person . Pipz had close to 50k ...

If someone has 50k of perks, something tells me he ain't interested in flying jets in the first place.  ;)
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« Reply #100 on: November 20, 2017, 07:53:37 AM »
While he did occasionally fly the D-9 he mostly flew the 152. Then the La7 as his primary rides. Not the D-9

When I flew with him he (we) flew the Dora a lot.   Maybe he transitioned to the 152 over time.  :headscratch:
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Re: Ways of reading skill
« Reply #101 on: November 20, 2017, 08:59:20 AM »
When I flew with him he (we) flew the Dora a lot.   Maybe he transitioned to the 152 over time.  :headscratch:

Or, linked his new shade to another ride in order to fool the masses. Didn't work out very well  :old:

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« Reply #102 on: November 20, 2017, 09:07:14 AM »
If someone has 50k of perks, something tells me he ain't interested in flying jets in the first place.  ;)
True. As Save said, we tend to fly med-to-high ENY planes. I roll jets only to hunt other jets. Usually they run away as soon as they get the word that another jet is on the prawl. I end up strafing tanks and wirbles and dying. I dont recall the last time I landed a jet. With around 24k of perk points I dont give a damn. If I were to fly it regularly, I'd try to RTB occasinally.

The point of the 262 argument was that a bunch of above average players in dominant fighters can ruin the game of anyone not willing to match their uber rides.
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« Reply #103 on: November 20, 2017, 09:31:18 AM »
Usually they run away as soon as they get the word that another jet is on the prawl..

Because we do not have those thousands of perks to shrug it off.  :old: Each time I die in a 262, I'm more or less back to zero. Ten years ago, it was far easier to get those perks, so I could afford using the jet to pork ammo bunkers  :D
 
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Re: Ways of reading skill
« Reply #104 on: November 20, 2017, 12:50:40 PM »
Or, linked his new shade to another ride in order to fool the masses. Didn't work out very well  :old:
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