Loss of WEP after Refuel.

[100Coogn]

A bit of a sidetrack but ill give it a shot
Can i reduce WEP cooldown time? If i reduce power will my engine cool faster then in full military power?

Would make a pretty good wish though.

Coogan 

[Vinkman]

This is no different than the concession to give the MA a fuel burn of 2.0

Since you know how the "rules" are coded, simply play within their constraints my friends

And have fun

Yes there is a difference. Everyone has a burn mult of 2.0.  If fuel multiplier were like WEP Rearm, a hand full of planes would get a burn mult of 3.0 or their 4th refuel. everyone else would stay 2.0.   

[Ciaphas]

In a 38L it takes around 3 minutes for the engines to cool down after you kill ‘em.

I suppose if one was inclined, you could perform a few engine temp tests and how they correlate to WEP.

I don’t see crates sitting on the rearm pad waiting for their engines to cool down.

When I get home from work tonight I will test the nonesense I have just posted. What’s the worse that can happen


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[Vinkman]

In a 38L it takes around 3 minutes for the engines to cool down after you kill ‘em.

I suppose if one was inclined, you could perform a few engine temp tests and how they correlate to WEP.

I don’t see crates sitting on the rearm pad waiting for their engines to cool down.

When I get home from work tonight I will test the nonesense I have just posted. What’s the worse that can happen


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Not sure what you mean by "temp tests and how they correlate to WEP"?    They are 100% correlated. The temp meter is the WEP indicator. When you reach a certain temp you are out of wep. In reality planes may have had a methanol, or Nitros Oxide gauge indicating when they ran out. IIRC HTC rolls them all into the temp gauge.  when the gauge drops you get your WEP back. 

Apparently there is a total time limit for WEP on planes with WEP.  We don't know why. If it is temperature based, it makes no sense to have a total WEP limit. for planes with ADI or Nitros it doesn't make sense that it's not replenished with fuel and ammo. So what we are all wondering is why it is set up that way.

The OP wanted it changed so the overall WEP timer is reset on re-arm.  I am for the overall WEP timer being reset on re-arm, but not to the cool down timer to reset.  so if it takes 10 minutes for a 109 to get 100% of WEP back, when you take off from a rearm, you still have to wait 9min, 30 sec.

So I give the OP a +1   
...because it makes sense.

[Ciaphas]

Has anyone tested a WEP reset after rearm and full engine cool down?


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[Vinkman]

Has anyone tested a WEP reset after rearm and full engine cool down?


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I have not. I'm taking the OP's word for it that the WEP runs out after a max about of time on a sortie.  I have re-armed 109s very often. I have not run into the 'Ultimate' limit yet.

[Ciaphas]

Last night I tried to perform a rearm and full engine cool down but the fights were to good and I couldn’t keep my wings attached to my 38

I will be trying again today.

One thing I did notice was that when WEP ran out and once the engine cooled to near normal temps my WEP did work until the engine reached critical temps.




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[morfiend]

Why all the exclamation points?   Switch to decaf, bruh.

 Do you know why you use an exclamation point?

 I was making a point that there has always been a time limit on wep besides the cool down times. Dale stated it was a bug that allowed you to extend the total wep times with rearms. That bug has been fixed in AH3 so if your plane has 10 mins. total wep,thats all you get. As to why it is the way it is I cant answer except that it's what HTC set it to.


  If you exceed the total wep time,get a new plane,if ENY wont allow you to up the same type plane fly something else or change sides!


     

[Vinkman]

  If you exceed the total wep time,get a new plane,if ENY wont allow you to up the same type plane fly something else or change sides!

How about  when you refuel you only get 25% of fuel and ammo? or 27% fuel and 13.5% ammo? or on next landing only 50% of you gear comes down? or your prop loses a blade each time you re-arm? or only the guns on the left side of the plane fire? Or 18% or your control surfaces are deactivated? or the game turns into night time but only for you?   

[Vraciu]

 Do you know why you use an exclamation point?

Yeah.  But you apparently don't.

  If you exceed the total wep time,get a new plane,if ENY wont allow you to up the same type plane fly something else or change sides!

 

[morfiend]

See Rule #4

[Vinkman]

  I dont get the connection.....

It's an arbitrary limitation that WEP is not re-supplied with fuel. So it's as logical as only getting 17% fuel and 13.5% ammo on a re-arm, etc...

so, yeh...we all know that we can tower out and get full WEP, but why not investigate if this seemingly arbitrary and illogical limitation can be changed. 

NOTE: No proof it even exists yet, so my argument is predicated on it actually being a real thing. 

 

[Ciaphas]

From my testing last night in my 38L, once the Engine got to crit temp the WEP ran out. I was able to fire WEP back up until the engine temp went Croat again. Sure the temp climbs faster than it did the first time but in the end it was still there after in flight cool down.

If the fights are as fun tonight I will test it on the ground after a rearm and a full engine shut down.

It may just a glitch but it did provide me with more time with WEP after the initial overheat.


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[wil3ur]

I have re-armed 109s very often. I have not run into the 'Ultimate' limit yet.

^^This

If you use it as a tool and not a crutch, it'll be there when you need it... the vowel is the giveaway "Emergency".

I personally think the game coddles people too much, and you should see half of these planes returning home smoking and tore apart just from being ran at full power from takeoff to landing.  HTC was nice enough to not be that big a goober to everyone.  Since we got an inch now the extra mile is needed and unlimited WEP should be added too?

C'mon man, jump in a 30+ ENY plane and learn how to fly, it beats the pants off of running!   

[Vraciu]

^^This

If you use it as a tool and not a crutch, it'll be there when you need it... the vowel is the giveaway "Emergency".

I personally think the game coddles people too much, and you should see half of these planes returning home smoking and tore apart just from being ran at full power from takeoff to landing.  HTC was nice enough to not be that big a goober to everyone.  Since we got an inch now the extra mile is needed and unlimited WEP should be added too?

C'mon man, jump in a 30+ ENY plane and learn how to fly, it beats the pants off of running!   

You’ve obviously never seen a test stand run...

The engines will hold up just fine, the difference being you’ll swap them out more often than the average TBO.   The Russians ran the hell out of their engines.   They wore out faster but they weren’t coming home smoking after one mission or two or five.