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Re: 1/2 winged planes
« Reply #30 on: April 06, 2018, 12:46:03 PM »
In game I've lost a wing on several airplanes and was able to maintain control but there was no way I could have fought anything.  My experience is if you can unload and get some speed up the aileron and rudder will have enough omph to keep you level.  To slow for landing you need flaps down so the stub can generate some lift...still need aileron and rudder to control roll, and in some cases throttle changes as well to help with roll.
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Re: 1/2 winged planes
« Reply #31 on: April 06, 2018, 12:50:12 PM »
funny you that that was almost identical to what one other guy said, as if missing half his wing was gonna make him faster lol

Well drink less beer and hit them in the fuselage then.  Remember when you are seeing two of everything.. shoot for the middle.

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Re: 1/2 winged planes
« Reply #32 on: April 06, 2018, 12:54:14 PM »
Well drink less beer and hit them in the fuselage then.  Remember when you are seeing two of everything.. shoot for the middle.

What if I see four?   :rofl
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Re: 1/2 winged planes
« Reply #33 on: April 06, 2018, 12:55:31 PM »
In game I've lost a wing on several airplanes and was able to maintain control but there was no way I could have fought anything.  My experience is if you can unload and get some speed up the aileron and rudder will have enough omph to keep you level.  To slow for landing you need flaps down so the stub can generate some lift...still need aileron and rudder to control roll, and in some cases throttle changes as well to help with roll.

Flaps and intentional fuel imbalancing also help depending on the airplane.
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Re: 1/2 winged planes
« Reply #34 on: April 06, 2018, 01:05:17 PM »
Flaps and intentional fuel imbalancing also help depending on the airplane.

I lose wingtips often for some reason.  I know I've found in some planes, can't remember which ones, which wingtip gets removed makes a big difference due to torque.  Losing one side you've got a relatively easy limp home.  Losing the other you've got to fight a lot more and in some cases adjust throttle to fly straight.

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Re: 1/2 winged planes
« Reply #35 on: April 06, 2018, 01:24:38 PM »
I lose wingtips often for some reason.  I know I've found in some planes, can't remember which ones, which wingtip gets removed makes a big difference due to torque.  Losing one side you've got a relatively easy limp home.  Losing the other you've got to fight a lot more and in some cases adjust throttle to fly straight.

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Mustang is like that.  I burn fuel out of the broken wing to create a counteracting weight imbalance.  Then I figure out which flap setting is most stable and hope for the best.  I sometimes do a steep bank right before ditching and time it so I wind up level. 
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Re: 1/2 winged planes
« Reply #36 on: April 06, 2018, 01:39:06 PM »
It feels like most of the time I land it, although sometimes I can't keep level on final.  I find coming in in a slight bank toward the undamaged wing makes it easier quite often.

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Re: 1/2 winged planes
« Reply #37 on: April 07, 2018, 12:10:14 AM »
It's not a troll flipz, it's an observation that you want something and are being confronted with a deeper pool than you were willing to get wet in. I don't need to troll you to see if you really put any effort into the depth of what you are asking Hitech.

In it's simplest terms you want people to fall out of the air with much less effort on your part so you can land your kill string. The aerodynamic modeling of damage Hitech has chosen is getting in the way of your fun. So either this wish is for him to review his assumptions made into code in your subjective favor or, to change what happens when rounds hit the other guy to fit your subjective wants.

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you are a troll,,, it has nothing to do with my kill string as you put it, and not wanting to make it easier on getting a plane out of the air.  just think its completely ludicrous that you shoot 1/2 a wing off a plane and it can out run a perfectly good air plane at 330 mph.  I have never said the plane should fall out of the sky did I? as a matter of fact I said I can understand planes limping home,, just not out running 3 perfectly good planes. that's like saying you can get a flat and still drive faster than the car behind you to me. 
 yes you have gone about 20 foot deeper in to this than I have ever gone (noted why most people don't read your posts as I usually do not) and made it a point of pointing a finger at some one which I was not trying to do. that makes you a troll, I hear they are coming out with a sequel (maybe guest star?).  that will be the end of you for me its just a wish man get over your self and quit acting like this is your game dude your a pawn and troll, I can wish anything I want like maybe you quit posting in a thread I put up because you are a troll!

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Re: 1/2 winged planes
« Reply #38 on: April 07, 2018, 12:35:51 AM »
There is already performance degradation when a plane loses half of a wing. If you've ever lost half a wing, you already know this. I believe HT has put a good amount of thought, research and effort into the damage model. If you think something is wrong with it and you want to be taken seriously, then you need to come up with something better than "I wish there was a flight characteristic change when you shoot off 1/2 a planes wing". What specifically about the "flight characteristics" need a change?

Bustr isn't trolling you. He's just asking you to be more specific in your request, if you can.

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Re: 1/2 winged planes
« Reply #39 on: April 07, 2018, 12:56:40 AM »
There is already performance degradation when a plane loses half of a wing. If you've ever lost half a wing, you already know this. I believe HT has put a good amount of thought, research and effort into the damage model. If you think something is wrong with it and you want to be taken seriously, then you need to come up with something better than "I wish there was a flight characteristic change when you shoot off 1/2 a planes wing". What specifically about the "flight characteristics" need a change?

Bustr isn't trolling you. He's just asking you to be more specific in your request, if you can.

Maybe he is talking about losing parts in 1/4's increments or something?  1/4-1/2-3/4/All.  (good wish huh?) and having the damaged plane perform as such.
Kind of like getting engine damage, but you can still fly as nothing is wrong..   :headscratch:

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Re: 1/2 winged planes
« Reply #40 on: April 07, 2018, 01:06:39 AM »
Maybe he is talking about losing parts in 1/4's increments or something?  1/4-1/2-3/4/All.  (good wish huh?) and having the damaged plane perform as such.
Kind of like getting engine damage, but you can still fly as nothing is wrong..   :headscratch:

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What we have now is, either 1/2 the wing is missing or all of the wing is missing and the damaged plane performs as such. I'd be okay with having two more steps, but I don't think that's what the OP is asking for. I think he is asking for the amount or level of 'degradation' to be increased. If that's the wish, it needs to be way more specific.
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Re: 1/2 winged planes
« Reply #41 on: April 07, 2018, 01:21:03 AM »
What we have now is, either 1/2 the wing is missing or all of the wing is missing and the damaged plane performs as such. I'd be okay with having two more steps, but I don't think that's what the OP is asking for. I think he is asking for the amount or level of 'degradation' to be increased. If that's the wish, it needs to be way more specific.

I believe you're right.  (I had to re-read the OP..)  To me, it sounds the wish was for more degradation in the planes performance when wing damaged.
Myself, I have not had that problem.  Usually when I lose a wing the plane changes characteristics immediately.

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Re: 1/2 winged planes
« Reply #42 on: April 07, 2018, 01:29:21 AM »
I believe you're right.  (I had to re-read the OP..)  To me, it sounds the wish was for more degradation in the planes performance when wing damaged.
Myself, I have not had that problem.  Usually when I lose a wing the plane changes characteristics immediately.

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Re: 1/2 winged planes
« Reply #43 on: April 07, 2018, 01:31:53 AM »
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Re: 1/2 winged planes
« Reply #44 on: April 07, 2018, 10:51:41 AM »
Same here.

He’s complaining about other planes not his own. 

His premise does have a point.
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