88s

[caldera]

Why not just get a kill on the person that's sitting in the man ack? I think that will make them think twice.

Giving a kill credit on ack guns only encourages more vulching, a behavior that is not exactly an endearing feature of the game.
And killing a field gun is easier than killing a goon.  One cannon shell 50 yards from it and poof.

However, gun kills should not get posted on the text buffer. 
They can be a result of skillful marksmanship, but hardly deserve the acclaim of someone who put themselves in harm's way.
That is my take, as a former 37mm sniper.

[Ciaphas]

Giving a kill credit on ack guns only encourages more vulching, a behavior that is not exactly an endearing feature of the game.
And killing a field gun is easier than killing a goon.  One cannon shell 50 yards from it and poof.

However, gun kills should not get posted on the text buffer. 
They can be a result of skillful marksmanship, but hardly deserve the acclaim of someone who put themselves in harm's way.
That is my take, as a former 37mm sniper.

If a player is flying, driving, sailing or manning a gun and they die, the person who kills them should get credit for their death.


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[lunaticfringe]

It’s not that I’m against the 88. I feel too many players spend too much time in them instead of other available tools. I pay a subscription to engage other players in combat. With the numbers dwindling, people living in 88s is reducing the number of players participating in combat. The fundamental problem is range. It’s range is so far that it makes it a grief weapon.

When I show up by myself at an untouched enemy base, the default is for some guy to miss me endlessly in an 88. Eventually I get bored and fly away. So there was a player there who basically became puffy ack because they didn’t want to fight. This is not what I pay for. When there were 600 people online it wasn’t a big deal. Now two or three people in guns represents a significant percentage of the players on a team.

There’s a simple litmus test (pay attention HT)...

“If everyone was doing this right now would this game be any fun?”

The answer to that question in the case of 88 gunners is unequivocally “No.” If every player was sitting in an 88 gun, there would be no game. If the answer to that question is ever “No” it shouldn’t be added to an open word type game because it gives players the opportunity to participate without getting involved.

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yeah well they pay a subscription to play the way they want--you are trying to make people play you're way.

[lunaticfringe]

I have played this game for 10 years--what it all boils down to is you all want the 88's and the 37mm's to be gone, so you can vulch the runway.


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vulcher

A person who makes lame kills in an online game, usually when the opponent is low on health of fighting another player.

you're too lazy to arm with rockets-you are too lazy to take out the guns-and you people are always crying you can't find a fight, if you quit vulcheing and picking the runway you might get a fight, but you don't and won't let people up because you want easy kills. that's the bottom line, I have seen it and heard it for years.
you say you pay to shoot people down--well they pay too shoot people down their way.

[The Fugitive]

I have played this game for 10 years--what it all boils down to is you all want the 88's and the 37mm's to be gone, so you can vulch the runway.


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vulcher

A person who makes lame kills in an online game, usually when the opponent is low on health of fighting another player.

you're too lazy to arm with rockets-you are too lazy to take out the guns-and you people are always crying you can't find a fight, if you quit vulcheing and picking the runway you might get a fight, but you don't and won't let people up because you want easy kills. that's the bottom line, I have seen it and heard it for years.
you say you pay to shoot people down--well they pay too shoot people down their way.

AGAIN, taking out guns is easy, even with just 50s. The point is, it is more fun to fight other players IN PLANES. Get out of the guns and into a PLANE!

[ccvi]

And killing a field gun is easier than killing a goon.  One cannon shell 50 yards from it and poof.

Easier than a goon probably yes, but 50 yards? That might barely be close enough for 75mm HE.

[icepac]

I've killed many of both with the pistol.

I especially like when only one manned ack is up and I walk up so they can see me before I pistol whip the gun position.

[LilMak]

I have played this game for 10 years--what it all boils down to is you all want the 88's and the 37mm's to be gone, so you can vulch the runway.


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vulcher

A person who makes lame kills in an online game, usually when the opponent is low on health of fighting another player.

you're too lazy to arm with rockets-you are too lazy to take out the guns-and you people are always crying you can't find a fight, if you quit vulcheing and picking the runway you might get a fight, but you don't and won't let people up because you want easy kills. that's the bottom line, I have seen it and heard it for years.
you say you pay to shoot people down--well they pay too shoot people down their way.

I haven’t vulched another player in probably 8 years. Try again.

[Vinkman]

I have played this game for 10 years--what it all boils down to is you all want the 88's and the 37mm's to be gone, so you can vulch the runway.

vulcher

A person who makes lame kills in an online game, usually when the opponent is low on health of fighting another player.

you're too lazy to arm with rockets-you are too lazy to take out the guns-and you people are always crying you can't find a fight, if you quit vulcheing and picking the runway you might get a fight, but you don't and won't let people up because you want easy kills. that's the bottom line, I have seen it and heard it for years.
you say you pay to shoot people down--well they pay too shoot people down their way.

You may be assuming too much about the motives of players. Then reacting to your own assumptions instead of reality.  Attackers will more often then used to be the case, chase players back to base, or end up fighting close to base because they don't have the time to wait for action to show up at alt in the halfway point between bases.  It is at these times when NO ONE IS TRYING TO VULCH that 88 guns which can reach pretty far out are just an annoyance that can interrupt and spoil a good dog fight. That's what the OP was complaining about, not that he can't vulch because of field guns.

I agree it's annoying, but hardly worth complaining about and certainly not a big enough problem that it's worth fixing. Like I said...the 88 is the least effective weapon in the game.  On another thought about 88s....like Ship puffy, they are totally ill suited for their intended purpose which was some defense against high flying buff formations. Strangely puffy and the 88s only seem to be able to kill low maneuvering fighters. lol!!

 

[ccvi]

Attackers will more often then used to be the case, chase players back to base, or end up fighting close to base because they don't have the time to wait for action to show up at alt in the halfway point between bases.

The empty air in between basis is meaningless when GVs spawn right through to the enemy fields in both directions. Fights in the air in the middle of nowhere while GVs tear down both towns/fields don't make any sense whatsoever.

[Vinkman]

The empty air in between basis is meaningless when GVs spawn right through to the enemy fields in both directions. Fights in the air in the middle of nowhere while GVs tear down both towns/fields don't make any sense whatsoever.

yes I agree with this analysis. The GV spawning is definitely keeping a good percentage of the action close to the field. 

[Wiley]

The empty air in between basis is meaningless when GVs spawn right through to the enemy fields in both directions. Fights in the air in the middle of nowhere while GVs tear down both towns/fields don't make any sense whatsoever.

Why not?  They're intercepting inbound enemies to break up/neutralize the threat before it gets to the base.

Wiley.

[ccvi]

Why not?  They're intercepting inbound enemies to break up/neutralize the threat before it gets to the base.

Intercepts don't really work at those distances. Too easy to get through. Also, the field is either lost or the capture failed without timely support for the GVs. A furball in the middle only helps by distracting the enemy, which only works if the enemy doesn't stick to their objectives required to defend/capture. If both sides agree to not care too much about the war.

[JimmyD3]

Just a minor observation, and a reminder to all, shooting in a man gun IS FIGHTING. It may not be to your liking, or it may be an irritation, but by all definitions of the word, it is fighting.

[LilMak]

Just a minor observation, and a reminder to all, shooting in a man gun IS FIGHTING. It may not be to your liking, or it may be an irritation, but by all definitions of the word, it is fighting.

Boxers in a ring are fighters. One guy outside the ring throwing beer bottles is NOT a fighter nor is he a participant in the fight.

If you’re in an 88, you’re just throwing beer bottles.