Stop Giving Auto Ack Proxies

[Vraciu]

Attack the town.  Get some teammates together and hit the town. That will get them out to defend, or they will continue to hug the ack until you capture the base.  A town is easier to deack than a base.

That doesn’t solve the problem.

[Ramesis]

See Rule #4

[Vraciu]

See Rule #4

[waystin2]

Actually I do it more often or not without getting killed.  The secret?  The Yak9T alt, speed and patience.  A small field can be de-acked in a short time.  If there are tons of uppers it requires a wingman or two to keep your tail clear, if your by yourself it is not happening.  The T's gun lets you pop guns from real high alt, then zoom back up without exposing yourself to the ack for too long or the bottom feeders. 

[Vraciu]

Actually I do it more often or not without getting killed.  The secret?  The Yak9T alt, speed and patience.  A small field can be de-acked in a short time.  If there are tons of uppers it requires a wingman or two to keep your tail clear, if your by yourself it is not happening.  The T's gun lets you pop guns from real high alt, then zoom back up without exposing yourself to the ack for too long or the bottom feeders.

Anyone can do it more often than not.    Again, misses the point. 

You take out the guns, get damaged, RTB with no ammo.  By the time you get back the 88s are almost up again, and what have you accomplished for your trouble?   You’ve more often than not given a kill or two away to a guy hovering around watching the action or chasing you down to nail you when your coolant is gone.

I’ll pass.

[flippz]

De-ack the field.

When you deack then they quit upping and go to wirbs. That’s as fun as ack. Then take down the vh they go to m3 resupp. Let’s find tools that make them fight?  How about enemy front eny that when two sides have no base flashing there eny goes up. Or when a team is beat down to 20ish percent of there bases then there bases become uncapturable. What about if you are in proximity of ack you get no perks.
This game has way to many tools to AVOID fighting. It’s a combat simulator the player should expect combat not run from it.

[atlau]

There is an arena which is solely focused on fast air combat action. Unfortunately it is rarely used. Why is that?

[Vraciu]

There is an arena which is solely focused on fast air combat action. Unfortunately it is rarely used. Why is that?

Because a dogfight requires context.   

Stick to the issue at hand. 

[Vraciu]

When you deack then they quit upping and go to wirbs. That’s as fun as ack. Then take down the vh they go to m3 resupp. Let’s find tools that make them fight?  How about enemy front eny that when two sides have no base flashing there eny goes up. Or when a team is beat down to 20ish percent of there bases then there bases become uncapturable. What about if you are in proximity of ack you get no perks.
This game has way to many tools to AVOID fighting. It’s a combat simulator the player should expect combat not run from it.

+1000

Or as I have suggested, if they run from a fight don’t reward them with a kill when auto ack is the cause.  That adds insult to injury.   

Been fighting in their ack all night.   Got nothing for it but killed.   

The one time I go to my ack?   Why did I bother? Completely ineffective against the picker in question. 

[Zimme83]

Too often there are a bunch of vulchers over a base whining that people should up planes instead of sitting in guns and Wirbles. What they want is free kill, they do not want a fight and they surely dont want to give the guy who up a plane a fair chance to fight. Everyone knows that and thus people choose not to up.

[Vraciu]

Too often there are a bunch of vulchers over a base whining that people should up planes instead of sitting in guns and Wirbles. What they want is free kill, they do not want a fight and they surely dont want to give the guy who up a plane a fair chance to fight. Everyone knows that and thus people choose not to up.

In that instance up from a base back and whack them with altitude.

[ccvi]

In that instance up from a base back and whack them with altitude.

That rarely makes sense. Assume you wanted to take a base. Executed in a half way competent way that is completed faster than it takes to get there to defend. If you grant the defender sufficient time that contradicts the assumption and hence makes the defense unnecessary.

Stick 2000 lbs of bombs under your. wings and keep them until you find relevant targets I'm absolutely sure a fighter will climb up to you to try to prevent you from using them. The moment you discard them he won.

[Vraciu]

That rarely makes sense. Assume you wanted to take a base. Executed in a half way competent way that is completed faster than it takes to get there to defend. If you grant the defender sufficient time that contradicts the assumption and hence makes the defense unnecessary.

Stick 2000 lbs of bombs under your. wings and keep them until you find relevant targets I'm absolutely sure a fighter will climb up to you to try to prevent you from using them. The moment you discard them he won.

It makes sense every time I do it.

What doesn’t make sense is upping from a CAP’d field—or getting a proxy kill due to the work of auto ack. 

[Zimme83]

If the defenders up from another base and come in with altitude then the whine is going to be about them being alt monkeys so no matter what there is going to be people whining...

[Oldman731]

What doesn’t make sense is upping from a CAP’d field

Then I suppose it makes better sense to get in a Wirbel.

It's the people capping the field who don't want a fight, not the people trying to fly from it.

- oldman