This game has ran its course

[bozon]

The game has not changed. The players have not changed either and that is the killer part.
The players that we have now are the same players from 10 years ago, only they are 10 years older. We get very little new blood - where are the squeekers? Have you heard one on comms lately? I have not. They are not gone - the game is so old that they went through puberty and are grown men now.

The game itself is still great. Technically, it is better than it ever was. However, games like this need a lively community to make them happen. There is no meaningful or very engaging PvE. We as a community are worn out and decaying old geezers. I have been here since late 2001 - yes, that is 17 friggin years! playing the same game - this is how awesome this game is, but there is a limit even to awesome.

Without a fresh spirit and energy I won’t make it to 20 years of AH. The game has not offered anything new in years. Sure AHIII came along and was much needed, but it is still the same game, same content, same players only older.

Oddly enough, AH has no real competition. Warthunder is an arcade. DCS is a great sim, but poor game (furnall arena is the closest it comes to AH). IL2 has some private servers that can somewhat resemble a persistent arena, but that is it.

AH needs a major reboot that include some meaningful new content to apeal to its vetrans and marketed to new crowds as a new game. Joining a game/community that has been running for 18 years is very intimidating to new and young players that were born after AH1 was released!

[Max]

  You hit the nail on the head.

[Zeagle]

I also joined in 2001. I flew almost continuously for 11 years. I think Bozon is correct.

That being said, I am happy to be back. And I hope HTC keeps up the good work.

[Shuffler]

Many places on the map. Find one that suits your purpose.purpose

[Cramby]

War thunder has realistic flight in which I am having a great time doing. It is exactly what fso was suppose to be years ago. It gets straight to the point and you play for points meaning you are more obliged to complete the mission rather than going 20k high in the air picking easy targets

[Spikes]

War thunder has realistic flight in which I am having a great time doing. It is exactly what fso was suppose to be years ago. It gets straight to the point and you play for points meaning you are more obliged to complete the mission rather than going 20k high in the air picking easy targets

FSO is much more than realistic flight model and objectives. Much time is put into each event to ensure the most accuracy possible while keeping playability. It is also about the camaraderie of flying with your squad week in and week out, and working with other squads to accomplish the objectives each month.

[TWCAxew]

War thunder has realistic flight in which I am having a great time doing. It is exactly what fso was suppose to be years ago. It gets straight to the point and you play for points meaning you are more obliged to complete the mission rather than going 20k high in the air picking easy targets

Like Spikes says;

FSO is so much more.

For me It's a sense of community. Even though it's not on my timezone.(I used to wake wake up for it at 4-5am) It's one of the best remaining parts of what made Aces High great. It is without a doubt the heart of Aces High. That's without the crap that people need it to be "realistic". It's a sense of belonging.

No way that war thunder can imitate that sence of community with the instant fast paced map rounds..

DutchVII

[JunkyII]

Everyone has a different view...even if they are seeing the same thing they are viewing it differently...reading the forum and playing the game are 2 completely different worlds...this forum is gloom and doom the game if action every time I'm on with much fun to have...this forum is all messed up do to the gloom and doomers coming here just to sweety

people doing their best to run away from a fight unless its in their favor that kills the game...

Funny Your squad's tactics and many others are summed up in one part of the OPs post.

FSO is much more than realistic flight model and objectives. Much time is put into each event to ensure the most accuracy possible while keeping playability. It is also about the camaraderie of flying with your squad week in and week out, and working with other squads to accomplish the objectives each month.

The restrictions also force a fight, which is what the OP is getting at...Aces High you cant login to the normal MA and expect a good fight. Anyone who disagrees with that doesn't know what a 'good fight' looks like.

[lunaticfringe]

   There's another flight sim that I play where they will put you in a scenario and you have no choice but to fight and stick to the objective if you want to win. This game on the other hand, just feels pointless. Its not fun flying to a base only to furball with other planes instead of capturing it.<--- and there you go being forced to play somebody else's way.

[Spikes]

The restrictions also force a fight, which is what the OP is getting at...Aces High you cant login to the normal MA and expect a good fight. Anyone who disagrees with that doesn't know what a 'good fight' looks like.

In that case I'm not sure what the OP wants. Yes, FSO presents a controlled fight over particular objectives, which is what everyone wants in order to maximize the amount of fun for the night. Perfectly even quick fights over objectives are fine in War Thunder, but where's the history? Where's the immersion? That is what FSO and Scenarios offer that is a cut above the rest.

I don't find any trouble finding a fight in the MA. I've popped in a few nights a week to check it out and there's always a couple nice sized dar-bars. It might not be a perfectly even and balanced 5K and lower fight with no cherry-picking Doras and Ponies, but a fight nonetheless.

I'm just saying his perception of FSO is incorrect.

[lunaticfringe]

the game has also gotten more verbally toxic- certain players and you all know who they are-berate and cuss with abbreviated curse words such as POS and I think we all know who uses that the most. I see new names all the time almost every day, I don't know if they are shades-returning players or new players, but who wants to get cussed out for shooting someone down. someone is always calling someone else a cheat- one player has been calling out players having a cheat code we all know he's joking but a new player may not.
a couple of you countries are not teaching new players. I've seen players dropping troops on the field instead of town--running troops on towns when its still blue-red-green flagged.

certain players take this game too seriously. I was in a tank a lot last night 2 or 3 times I got killed while carrying 4 or 5 kills I didn't get mad. my tank gets bombed all the time I don't get mad.

it's not productive to cuss people out.

[SPKmes]

...Aces High you cant login to the normal MA and expect a good fight. Anyone who disagrees with that doesn't know what a 'good fight' looks like.

I find good fights.... They are not usually balanced but If I am challenging myself it is a good fight.... do I get p'd off with some of the tactics...yeah for sure....no one likes to get slapped over and over again.... but I do find my share of good fights most times I am on.... It is different for sure.... and I would like to see more numbers thus more variation...but to say it is totally no good is just a perception.... come back in Junky and show us the way...

[SPKmes]

the game has also gotten more verbally toxic- certain players and you all know who they are-berate and cuss with abbreviated curse words such as POS and I think we all know who uses that the most. I see new names all the time almost every day, I don't know if they are shades-returning players or new players, but who wants to get cussed out for shooting someone down. someone is always calling someone else a cheat- one player has been calling out players having a cheat code we all know he's joking but a new player may not.
a couple of you countries are not teaching new players. I've seen players dropping troops on the field instead of town--running troops on towns when its still blue-red-green flagged.

certain players take this game too seriously. I was in a tank a lot last night 2 or 3 times I got killed while carrying 4 or 5 kills I didn't get mad. my tank gets bombed all the time I don't get mad.

it's not productive to cuss people out.

Unfortunately the art of smack talk has died....this is true

[lunaticfringe]

look it's simple-do you want to find a fight? then join the Knights we are always getting attacked. last night a Knight flew to a enemy base you could count 6 red dots taking of to get him. Knights are a favorite target.
example. when a new map comes up whose strats get hit 1st, Knights, because we are the best, and everybody want's to fight the best

[lunaticfringe]

Unfortunately the art of smack talk has died....this is true

yep talking smack has been lost and has been replaced with cussing people out-berating them whining and crying, calling people cheats, they can't just take there loss and move on. some of these players have an ego that they think they are so good that they shouldn't get shot down and are shocked when they do.