Please perk or reduce the late war monsters

[Vraciu]

Ah, so you want the G14 perked, too! 

The slippery slope continues. 

I say perk all planes that have a cannon!   

[Shuffler]

The slippery slope continues. 

I say perk all planes that have a cannon!   

No just the planes with wings.

[DmonSlyr]

That's correct. You just haven't shown any reason to change it from what it is now.

What reason are you specifically thinking of that makes a plane perked? Like I said, the 190D is practically the same plane as the Temp, just a tad slower accel by a few MPH.

Your arrogance aside you have just destroyed your own argument.  (Or revealed its true purpose—to give yourself an advantage.)

Rolling planeset now!

Incorrect, like most of your post here.

I am just saying that I could easily fly the fastest planes in the game and always have the advantage. But that's not what i want the MA to turn in to with all of these super late war planes.

[Arlo]

No just the planes with wings.

Landing gear is so unfair.

[Shuffler]

Landing gear is so unfair.

I concur

[Arlo]

Perk the I-16.

[Shuffler]

Perk the I-16.

Covered.... wings, landing gear....

[Wiley]

Ahh but you see the Jug or P51B cannot accel as quickly nor has even close to the same Top speed, therefore, a 109G14 would have a greater chance of catching it after diving on it compared to a 190D or La7 or Yak3 that skirt away and keep E a lot better. There is a difference! The Jug are Bpony are harder to escape the fight once they get low n slow. Also they have 50s which means you have to hit the enemy longer. That's the not case for the 190D and La7. There's a reason why the 190D has a better K/D with  2700 more kills than a Bpony. I am just confused how you don't see an imbalance there when it's right in the #s.

If the 109 has alt and the other plane is already low and slow, there's not much difference running dora down and running down a B pony/jug.  The guys that fly to live also generally don't get low and slow.

I can guarantee that players won't fly more timidly

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but even if they did, there would be far less of them in the environment. Therefore, like the Temp and 4hog, it would be less prevalent and therefore less of a dominate plane. I don't see how a few perkies would hurt.

There aren't that many people who are fanatical f4u4 or tempest fans.  There are a ton of pony D fans.  They'd pay, and they'd fly even more timidly.

Wiley.

[Vraciu]

I am just saying that I could easily fly the fastest planes in the game and always have the advantage. But that's not what i want the MA to turn in to with all of these super late war planes.

Then do it and quit whining, hot shot. 

[FLS]

What reason are you specifically thinking of that makes a plane perked? Like I said, the 190D is practically the same plane as the Temp, just a tad slower accel by a few MPH.

Do you think Hitech just forgot about the FW-190D when he set the perks?

Assuming he didn't, what has changed that points to the 190D being a problem rather than simply popular?

The FW-190 was famous for it's high roll rate.  The Temp not so much. Re-orienting your lift vector faster is a significant ACM advantage. For dogfighting I think the 190D is superior to the Temp in maneuverability. But perks and ENY are not just for dogfighting. They are for arena game play.  I'm guessing the key difference for the 190D vs Temp is firepower.

[Vraciu]

If the 109 has alt and the other plane is already low and slow, there's not much difference running dora down and running down a B pony/jug.  The guys that fly to live also generally don't get low and slow.

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There aren't that many people who are fanatical f4u4 or tempest fans.  There are a ton of pony D fans.  They'd pay, and they'd fly even more timidly.

Wiley.

Or just leave.   Probably a little of both. 

(Being aggressive in a Mustang is situational because it just doesn’t retain/quickly regain E once it’s at the bottom of the stack.  You have to know when to bug.) 

[The Fugitive]

This is part of being a sandbox and happens in most games I knew that are remotely similar. There's always some more 'effective' or popular tools than others. The only way to completely regulate it would be to remove large parts of the sandbox aspect.

Let's just look at the old MW arena. The popular LW muscle machines were totally absent, Spit VIII and Typhoon were perked. To many, the planeset was much more balanced than the LW one.
But still it was "the same half dozen planes all the time". In MW tour 100, the top 6 (out of 36 available) fighters made 52% of all fighter vs fighter kills. The top three shared 35% of all kills between them. A huge part of the planeset played only a minor role.

I dont have any numbers to back up my thoughts, your chart shows P51, Yak3, Spit16, D9, Nik, and La as the top 6. Seems to me we use to see a lot more 109 other than the K4, F4s, F6F, Spit8, and 5s, Jugs other than the M, and on base defense Hurris, IL2, Brewster and Zeros at sea.

All that diversity is gone. It is rare that you find these other planes today. Sure you can fly any plane you want, but to catch most other players you need the speed demons which only makes things worst. So your choice is to fly a speed demon, or log off. Neither choice can be very good for business.

[Arlo]

I-16 hater.

[Vraciu]

I concur

Does a landing skid count as gear?   Asking for a friend. 

[Arlo]

Does a landing skid count as gear?   Asking for a friend.

Wings, though.